Submitted by beverage_lawless_pibroch in Antifa (edited )

What are your thoughts on the efficacy of deradicalization of fascists/white supremacists/right-wing radicals through social media interventions? Is anyone doing work in this area or aware of any guides? I'm all for anti-fascist action, but a lot of the people I interact with online are also just kids, and I think their minds are worth fighting for. Most of the work that I can find about deradicalization is about interventions with Muslims, and has lead to really problematic profiling/policies, e.g., in England. Would like to find some resources that are specific to approaching fascists.


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Wrestitaway wrote

It's commendable, but it's not scalable. The amount of racists you can deradicalize wil never outweigh the amout that buy into the alt-light, alt-right garbage.

That being said...life after hate was turned down by the trump administration. They're pretty good.


beverage_lawless_pibroch wrote

Yes, they're the one group I've found. I have the founder's biography on my to-read list.

The scale question is interesting. Those who do interventions with Muslims will say the same thing, that it often takes extensive one-on-one engagement. But I'm not sure that's a reason not to try. It certainly won't scale if nobody's doing it.

I see groups like Identity Evropa making concerted efforts for the minds of college students but I don't see the same intensive, persuasive efforts from our side.


jadedctrl wrote (edited )

But I'm not sure that's a reason not to try. It certainly won't scale if nobody's doing it.

... frankly, it won't scale period, unless a huge amount of population dedicates a lot of time to this. Which is to say it really won't.


beverage_lawless_pibroch wrote

Diversity of tactics, though... An appealing part of this kind of work is that I can do it at home after my kid goes to bed. It doesn't have to scale to be worthwhile.


mftrhu wrote

I don't even bother. De-radicalizing people takes much, much more effort than preventing that radicalization in the first place, and success is far from guaranteed - when I get in an argument it's never about convincing my interlocutor, but everyone else spectating. If it happens, good, but I'm much more interested in stopping them from spouting their drivel and getting other supporters in the first place.


amongstclouds wrote

I have to agree that the number of people you can save from these ideologies is minimal compared to the number that will absorb themselves within it, but I still think it's worth the effort. Anyone who can be saved from this destructive path can and should be helped.

Here are some links that I've had bookmarked for a while. I use to enjoy reading about counter-terrorism and radical movements... though I have to agree that I dislike the use of the word 'radical', because there is only one definition of the word I like: "Radical simply means to grab something by the roots." -Angela Davis

I'm pretty sure I don't need to explain to you guys why these people will never be radical, but only reactionary.

Leaving the World of Hate

The Psychology of Radicalization and Deradicalization

Mindful Occupation

The last link I shared is really just a summary of what I think we really need to fix not just the issues of white extremism, but all other societal ills is the idea of radical mental health. We need to be actively trying to create an alternative social structure to counter the existing mainstream.

Individuals are drawn to these groups not just out of pride in their race of heritage... but more often not out of fear. These are people who truly think the 'white race' is under attack, and when they are surrounded by people who mirror that same attitude it creates a feedback loop that just builds and builds until finally they are pushed to extremist groups and tactics. Not everyone can be saved from this, but the ones who can be saved are best saved BEFORE going full-blown extremist. After that it gets much harder.


beverage_lawless_pibroch wrote

amongstclouds, thank you VERY MUCH for these links, they are all new to me.

Here's a guide that someone started drafting on fighting anti-rightwing extremism on Instagram. Any edits and suggestions would be greatly appreciated by the author, I'm sure. They surely already have some good things to consider from the feedback on this thread.