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conservative_raddle_fan OP wrote (edited )

When it's the only public and visible representation of your group, you should consider hiring better PR. Or just disassociating yourselves from the violent extremists even better.

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DaisyDisaster wrote

Look up respectability politics.

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conservative_raddle_fan OP wrote

##Respectability politics or the politics of respectability refers to attempts by marginalized groups to police their own members and show their social values as being continuous and compatible with mainstream values rather than challenging the mainstream for what they see as its failure to accept difference##

What is the relation?

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DaisyDisaster wrote

The relation is we're not interested in "mainstream values," as it puts pressure on marginalized people to appeal to their oppressors. This includes appealing to conservatives in some vain attempt to radicalize them.

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conservative_raddle_fan OP wrote

What do you mean by mainstream values? You must mean free speech and the right to assembly, because that's all we are talking about, not gay marriage or abortion or what have you (things that I actually support, as well as many other conservatives).

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DaisyDisaster wrote

I honestly can't tell if you're a poe or not, but I'll answer anyway.

Don't assume what I mean, first of all. I don't mean something unless I state it, and if you have any question about what I mean, then ask.

By "mainstream values" I mean values that are generally accepted by society. Things like "the police are good" or "you have to be nice to people who disagree with you." Things kids are generally taught as good. These things are being questioned now, so you see less of this, but several years ago, people wouldn't have questioned them too much.

And yes, that sometimes means having controversial stances on free speach and platforming.

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conservative_raddle_fan OP wrote

Depending on the government to protect you is idiotic because the whole reason Americans are armed is to protect ourselves from the government. These are liberal values, the belief that the government can protect you from criminals. Only we can protect ourselves, by arming ourselves and working out to maintain peak physical and mental performance.

Denying citizens the right to free speech and public protest will only give the government the ammo to declare martial law and crush our freedom forever.

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DaisyDisaster wrote

Dude, I'm an anarchist and I'm not anti-gun. If you'd bother to read around here you'd know we're not fond of liberals. We're not liberals. We're leftists.

Secondly, allowing fascists to speak unopposed only allows them to recruit. They aren't interested in honest debate and never were. They don't work with facts.

Thirdly, uh, my dude, you came here complaining about black bloc tactics, which is protest. We're not anti-protest, we're anti-fascist.

I want to note that despite your complaining about the left, you haven't actually provided any examples to back up or clarify your claims, although you complain of us not providing you with "evidence" above.

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