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Noir_ wrote

Contradictory or not, that makes sense to me as well. I'm also significantly impacted by mental impairment (so they say) so I identify with the rejection of societal structures. Your ideal sounds a lot like mine whenever I return to a spiritual mindset; there I'm always amused by that concept of theoretically inaccessible ideas of what could be, that we just cannot visualize because of the limitations of our living position.

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Gwen_Isilith wrote

I think with your last sentence this is something I'm not interested in. Im much less interested in an ideal anarchy where one can be disordered without systems, and am much more interested in how one can exist disordered today.

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Noir_ wrote

Well, I wasn't necessarily talking about ideal scenarios. I don't think anything will ever be ideal for everyone, all the time. Moreso just better than this structure, and I think only Energy can contrive of every possible scenario. I struggle to communicate exactly what I mean.

I do appreciate how you see things. I still harbour a lot of pessimism about it that I'm sure is a result of many experiences of mine. But I know it's possible, however probable.

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Gwen_Isilith wrote

I guess what I'm trying to communicate to you is Pessimism, namely nohkism but the two are conflated. Nothing is possible except what we do today. I forget if it was this thread or another where I mentioned the writings on how the future is Fascist. And so that's what I mean by ideal- anything outside of our current experience.

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