Peter_J_Kropotkin OP wrote
Reply to comment by CaptainACAB in Is "anticiv" just the new re-brand for "Anarcho-Primitivism" so they can hide their real beliefs? by Peter_J_Kropotkin
We wouldn't need a new iphone every year under anarcho-communism because they'd be built to last and would use modular technology so we can upgrade them as we need to.
There wouldn't be exploitation to the workers making the phones because there wouldn't be bosses under anarcho-communism.
CaptainACAB wrote
What interest would people in another country have in mining for materials to send to a factory elsewhere? Why would they not simply use their newfound time and freedom to develop their own societies towards self-determination? To stop growing cash crops and grow food instead?
Peter_J_Kropotkin OP wrote
So there would be no trade in your ideal society? That's not very realistic tbh.
People would mine for materials in order to trade them with other ancom communities to procure things they lack. If one community has milk, but not carrots, they would need to cooperate so both communities can have milk and carrots.
CaptainACAB wrote (edited )
ideal society
retch.
But to answer your question; I don't have any control over what other people near me do, so what I think of trade is irrelevant; it would happen regardless of how I felt about it.
That's not very realistic tbh.
You don't honestly have much ground to stand on when it comes to what is realistic; quite a few of us used to be ancoms, too.
People would mine for materials in order to trade them with other ancom communities to procure things they lack. If one community has milk, but not carrots, they would need to cooperate so both communities can have milk and carrots.
Food is one thing. Material for technology is a whole other beast and also what brought about this conversation to begin with. Why would anyone want to do something as dangerous and laborious as mining when they can put that same energy towards procuring necessities?
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
Destroy the mines.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
Torch those trade caravans.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
We'll still have iPhones under ancom lol
Peter_J_Kropotkin OP wrote
What would you do to the iphone factories? Burn them down?
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
You wouldn't?
Peter_J_Kropotkin OP wrote
I'd liberate them.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote (edited )
Guess you gotta go too. The slave labor and destruction to the environment those places require will not change under communisms.
Peter_J_Kropotkin OP wrote
Communism doesn't have slaves... That's ridiculous.
L0rdEMPRESS_GaLaXyBrAiN wrote
Communism isn't magic either.
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