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celebratedrecluse moderator wrote

anyone who wants to setup the social conditions for money to determine the distribution of the means of existence is a capitalist. this should be obvious, but since capitalism is total dogshit all these dorks want to pretend they're something cooler while doing the same basic fuckery as any CEO or President

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

Lol why do you always use that mod tag? You're not giving out warnings or bans.

That's completely what tankies are, just liberals who want to feel better about themselves by promising their brand of capitalism will eventually lead to equality somehow.

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ziq OP wrote

They're capitalist af.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote (edited )

I'm so disgusted by "an"caps that I can say that I'd rather spend my whole life listening to a tankie than an "an"cap.

I really don't understand this tendency that people have towards stating their preference between two garbage options.

I mean, yeah, they're authoritarian and are always bitching about us (even though they've started most wars against us for no reason), but they're not capitalist pigs making of a precious ideology a complete crap and changing its definition.

"Tankies are annoying, power hungry, and have literally killed anarchists; but ancaps stole our cool name and that means they're worse" Redditors have the best fucking takes, holy shit.

An "an"cap said time ago that we changed the definition of anarchism (interesting, though, considering the ones who theorised anarchism, mainly Proudhon, Bakunin and Kropotkin, were all socialists and strictly anti-capitalist, and would never allow their ideology to be considered right-wing) and some say that "real anarchism" is "anarcho-"capitalism. Well, what's more real, the definition stated by those who theorised it, or by a bunch of fools who stole 2 terms from them?

This paragraph is annoying to read for so many reasons.

I'd rather live under an authoritarian commie shit than under a capitalist "anarchy" crap.

This is what anarchism is really about.

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shanc wrote

I really don't understand this tendency that people have towards stating their preference between two garbage options.

As kids we used to play 'would you rather', i.e. 'would you rather eat shit or eat vomit?'

The 'lesser evil ''anarchists''' on reddit never got over that game

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ziq OP wrote

This is what anarchism is really about.

Yeah really, getting to choose between getting murdered by a red fascist or a brown fascist is the best thing about being an anarchist.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

I'm more of a "picking which hierarchies are justified and okay to uphold" guy m'self.

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ziq OP wrote

Awesome! You might be interested in joining my new Chomskyism ideology. It's like anarcho-communism but with a justified state and a justified police force and a justified wealthy white idol. We celebrate his birthday every year by going on the news and telling people which less-evil presidential candidate they should vote for.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Tell me...are there...unions?

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ziq OP wrote

Yes! I'll put you in touch with the justified president of our police union. Real nice guy.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

our police union

Oh, good. I was afraid that you might be one of those extremist groups that don't understand that cops can absolutely exist under anarchism.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

You can designate authority to people in certain areas without them being rulers.

Where do these people get off calling themselves anarchists? And they actually believe the police can be reformed to be on their team lmao. There's really no discernable difference between these privileged shitlords and tankies.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Yeah, y'know, sometimes becoming something means you have to be the exact opposite of what you wanted to become. Happens all the time; whether it's vegans deciding to eat only meat or atheists worshiping a deity.

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ziq OP wrote

Come on, don't be an extremist, yo. It's okay if it's justified meat or a justified god...

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ziq OP wrote

Is a voluntary hierarchy like when I take a shit on an ancap's face after paying him?

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ziq OP wrote

Holy fuck these ppl fail at anarchy.

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ziq OP wrote

yeesh

meritocracy is just another word for white supremacy

privileged people are born with every advantage in the world (whiteness) to attain 'merit' while everyone else is left behind and told they weren't good enough

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Redditors fail at everything but breathing. It's kind of their default mode of existence.

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ziq OP wrote

I should pose as Chomsky and do an AMA where I tell them that breathing isn't a justified authority so they have to stop doing it.

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southerntofu wrote

Also important to note that USSR & other authoritarian communists have been involved in genocide of ethnic/religious minorities. So, like @Somelconoclast said, no reason to choose between two evils :)

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ziq OP wrote

response from the OP to this thread:

https://i.imgur.com/Lr4SsBK.jpg

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

It's funny though, how many of them probably didn't even think of answering to me.

I try my best not to think of answering to anyone. Freudian slip much?

I thought people, especially leftists, would be more comprehensive of the fact that some people may prefer to live under an authoritarian regime rather than a capitalist one

Like anarchists wouldn't find themselves purged under either. Jesus.

It's also funny how many of them criticise the fact that I've had my problems with capitalism (and not with authoritarianism) just because I decided to consider ("anarcho-")capitalism worse than tankies

Probably has something to do with the fact that the whole post was about how authoritarian communism would preferable to live under in comparison to "anarcho"-capitalism.

This is why I left raddle, it's full of people that deserve no respect from me and they keep hunting people who are in the same side as them -

Reddit is somehow the opposite of those things?

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ziq OP wrote

I think the real problem is that no one here is on their side, while everyone on r/fullcommunism is.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote (edited )

That's more of a blessing, really.

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ziq OP wrote

I'm starting to think every red anarchist that hates this site is a closet tankie that can't stand to see actual anarchist views.

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