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SomeIconoclast wrote

No, they will just "win" the "right" to renogociate the contract, nothing to gain, there.

Why the fuck would anyone want to renegotiate with someone who tried to enslave them? Why are you defending such a shitty framework for a justice system? Why the fuck does it feel like this conversation is going in circles?

Yeah, It's sad that criminals are oppressed, but victims are living in heaven.

I'm, like, 90% certain that this is sarcastic, but I'm really not sure with you. I'll just assume it is and move on.

Yeah, but don't be surprised when you're ostracized or If you meet an angry vigilante "hero".

Oh, fuck, more talk of ostracization and vigilantes. That's why this conversation is going in circles, you keep repeating the same shit without substance. Why would I be ostracized for not doing something that's optional and easily ignored? Do you think there's some stigma against not doing jury duty?

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Silver_ OP wrote

Why the fuck would anyone want to renegotiate with someone who tried to enslave them? Why are you defending such a shitty framework for a justice system?

They want to gain back their reputation to not be ostracized from people property.

Why would I be ostracized for not doing something that's optional and easily ignored?

Because I don't want thieves near my property, therefore I won't allow you to enter in my property. Maybe, I will be the only one doing this, who knows, but I am pretty convinced that other voluntaryists will think the same.

Do you think there's some stigma against not doing jury duty?

Is there stigma to smash someone's car and not pay for the damage ? Oh wait...

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SomeIconoclast wrote (edited )

They want to gain back their reputation to not be ostracized from people property.

"People will want to be enslaved so that others will not think badly of them." This is fucking gold, lmao.

Because I don't want thieves near my property, therefore I won't allow you to enter in my property. Maybe, I will be the only one doing this, who knows, but I am pretty convinced that other voluntaryists will think the same.

It doesn't matter if you want thieves near your property. No one likes having their shit stolen. It really doesn't matter if you don't "allow" them into your property. What? You gonna stay in your house for the rest of your life, because you're afraid that someone will steal from you? Come the fuck on.

Is there stigma to smash someone's car and not pay for the damage ? Oh wait...

"Smashing a car and ignoring optional contracts for negotiation are the same thing." How do you miss the point this fucking often?

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Silver_ OP wrote (edited )

You gonna stay in your house for the rest of your life, because you're afraid that someone will steal from you

Or security cameras or pay guards to keep my home safe or better security doors...etc

"Smashing a car and ignoring optional contracts for negotiation are the same thing." How do you miss the point this fucking often?

My point was : you smashed the car, the owner want to negociate (so that we'll know how to compensate him/how much). You don't want to. You don't compensate.

Do you really think that there is no stigma to not fix when you break other people stuff ?

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