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Silver_ OP wrote

Yeah, but don't be surprised when vigilantes want revenge & kill you.

Note: How will justice work in an ancom system : can you explain me, please ?

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ziq wrote

In my system: you try to exploit me for my labor, I kill you. You lay claim to more land than you can work yourself and thus exoloit others to work it for you, I kill you.

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Silver_ OP wrote (edited )

You lay claim to more land than you can work yourself and thus exoloit others to work it for you

Ok, so If I pay my brother to work my land for me, you will kill me ?

If I pay my son to work my land for me, you will kill me ?

If I pay a stranger, will you kill me ?

Even If It doesn't bother you at all and the other party was willing ?

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ziq wrote

Yes.

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Silver_ OP wrote

Are they better off, If they do it for free or for 0.01$/hour ?

Do you think that you improve the life of this family by killing me ?

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ziq wrote

  1. No one is going to labor for you for free.

  2. Yes.

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Silver_ OP wrote

Ok, does It mean that you will stop using anything that you haven't built yourself (because It is theft & immoral//You have more efficient/better alternatives) ?

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ziq wrote

A better alternative than you exploiting me to build things for you to profit from? Yes. Kill you and take the stuff you got by exploiting me.

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Silver_ OP wrote

Might as well call your ideology solipsism/"egoism" and become a raider/gang member.

take the stuff you got by exploiting me.

I haven't exploited you.

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ziq wrote

You exploited me the moment you violently hoarded land and resources and entered people into servitude to work it for you and defend it for you by denying them food, water and shelter unless they did your bidding. You are a state.

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Silver_ OP wrote

I never did this

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ziq wrote

Actually it's voluntary servitude because I let you eat dinner in exchange for doing backbreaking labor to make the very food I let you eat.. after taking 99% of it for myself.

Yeah.. Like all states you engage in doublespeak to avoid responsibility for your exploitation.

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Silver_ OP wrote

Ah I see, maybe you have a problem with bad deals, then ?

You want to outlaw bad deals, right ?

What If the deal was good for some people ? What If people are happy with the deal ?

Or do you think that value is objective and you are the one who gets to decide what is a good or bad deal ?

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ziq wrote

No I don't want to outlaw bad deals. I don't want to make any deals. I just want to kill you and burn down everything your slaves built for you.

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Silver_ OP wrote

Are you rioting all the time & looting in protests or smth

You don't want peace ? What do you want me to do ? What should I do, kill myself ?

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ziq wrote

Stop exploiting people for their labor. Stop hoarding more resources than you need when others have none. Stop branding people "bad" for taking what they need to survive from you when you took everything you have from them and people like them. Stop creating authority. Stop reproducing statism. Stop ruling people and land and constructing top-down systems where everyone is exploited by everyone above them.

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