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db0 wrote

Their own wellbeing already makes people care about the environment, and they live in friggin' capitalism!

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db0 wrote

You wouldn't even reach communism unless you banded with your neighbours to fight against capital. And after that, they wouldn't dump chemicals in their yard because A) They would have no profit incentive to use chemicals in the first place and B) Because their community will kick their ass for polluting the commons.

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ziq OP wrote

profit incentive

You mean they only have a lawn to maintain their property values? I think they'd still want to kill weeds even if capitalism went away. It's just part of being civilized.

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videl wrote

can confirm. kno somebody who understands how clear cut lawns are bad and they still insist on doing it for whatever reason.

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db0 wrote

Plenty of natural ways to kill weeds mate, and without WASP-y standards to care, this would not be an issue anyway.

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ziq OP wrote

Most anarchists don't care about 'natural ways'; they fetishize science.

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db0 wrote

Natural methods don't have to be unscientific. Science merely tells us what works or not.

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ziq OP wrote

True, but I've seen far too many anarchists on r/anarchism defend Monsanto and it's Roundup product to have much faith in them opting for natural solutions.

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db0 wrote

It doesn't matter what pseudonymous people inside a forum within a capitalist system say. You have to think about what the incentives within an anarchist society will be and why something like Roundup might be used.

You keep transposing the incentives of the capitalist system into a hypothetical anarchist society.

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db0 wrote (edited )

You're living under the magical assumption that communism will suddenly make everyone band together by the campfire and love and care for each other. It's pure magical thinking.

That's not my assumption at all, lol :D

These people aren't doing it for profit, they're doing it so there fucking yards stay looking nice and I don't know if forcing them to stop very good, but like all good communists, you will simply kill them and bam, now more people think like you!

Not at all, but prey tell, what is your solution for those problems you posit?

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db0 wrote

You know, there can be no discussion if you only negatively criticize other's positions (badly) without you ever presenting your own. I understand how easy it is to do so though, as you avoid making yourself vulnerable.

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db0 wrote

Not at all. But you do seem to have trouble grasping what others are saying in favour of what you'd like them to have said.

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db0 wrote

You seem upset that I have an actual argument.

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db0 wrote

I mean, you couldn't be more wrong about me, but then again, you're nor really here to discuss, but just to create conflict. Are you sure that's a good use of your time?

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