Majrelende wrote
Reply to comment by ziq in How anarcho-communism would create authority by ziq
What do you think would be a better way to feed people?
ziq OP wrote
Communism can only work outside of industrial mass society. A small community gathering or growing supplies and freely sharing them with the rest of the community. Each community trading with other small communities.
Mass industry requires mass agriculture, mass labor, mass transport, mass resource extraction, mass construction, mass policing, mass military... mass society and will only lead right back to capitalism because it's so unwieldly and authority forming.
The better way to feed people is for people to feed themselves instead of expecting others to labor to feed them; an entitlement that arose with industrial civilization.
OdiousOutlaw wrote (edited )
So it isn't that that the ideals of anarcho-communism (a society without a state or currency that thrives from mutual aid) would lead to some sort of authority, it's that because ancoms and anarcho-communist theory presume that the harm that industry causes can be lessened or, in the cases of the most naive, eliminated entirely and that civilization isn't a hierarchical construct? Do you believe that if it weren't for those two (admittedly major) factors, that an anarcho-communist society would "work"? Or would a form of authority arise from that?
ziq OP wrote
sure but it wouldn't be anarcho-communism since it wouldn't have anything to do with factories or controlling the means of production.
OdiousOutlaw wrote
Alright. So I can assume that your definition of Communism inherently involves industrialization and that it can't be separated from industry? If so, then I think I understand your argument against anarcho-communism better; if not, feel free to correct me.
ziq OP wrote
It's not my definition, anarcho-communism is a specific ideology that's been clearly defined by 2 centuries of theorists.
OdiousOutlaw wrote
Alright. I'll read up on this. Thanks for your time, ziq.
comrade_pikachu wrote
That's primitivism you simpleton.
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