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anarchoreposter wrote

Left vs Right comes from which side of the French king members of the états généraux were sitting before the French revolution - those on the right were monarchist, those on the left were in favour of the republic. In other words, both were in favour of the state. Obviously all this was a long time ago, and most people aren't really aware of it, but that doesn't mean it's not relevant, because the underlying assumption still persists that the whole spectrum of conceivable politics need to be enacted through the state. That's still true, whether it's social-democrats, liberals, leninists, greens, whatever.

I think one of the most important things we need to get across is that worthwhile political changes can only be achieved through direct action outside and against the state, parliamentary democracy and the various structures of class collaboration, and that means questioning the left vs right thing.

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rot wrote

I feel like left & right are meaningless when you get deep into philosophical details and comparing ideologies. Anarchism is 'left' as long as the 'right' stands in opposition to it

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j0hn_d0e wrote

I think its part of the left and right since people on both sides have "anti authority" views.

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j0hn_d0e wrote

Your right, but everyone isn't 100% anti-authority and pro-capitalism or vice versa. For example people on the right tend to not want taxes, so anarchy might be appealing since there's no governing force to tax them. People on the left tend to want equality, so anarchy might appeal to them since there is no hierarchy. On the flip side, people on the left tend to want more government intervention (healthcare, social programs, gun control, etc) which is the opposite of true anarchy. People on the right also tend to want government intervention (restricting abortions, anti-LGBT rights, anti-immigration, etc.) which isn't part of anarchy. This is why I think anarchy can be from both sides. Obviously complete anarchy wouldn't have capitalism, but that's the system that is established and people who are apart of it might switch to anarchy.

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shanc wrote

Sometimes 'anarchist' is just what people call themselves to sound cool on the internet. 'Sovereign citizens' etc clearly have nothing to do with anarchism. I really can't stand those guys.

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