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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Reply to comment by vacuousaptitude in Some thoughts about veganism by chaos

It comes from years of life among anarchist vegans and poc in two of the most racist countries in the world. in both of them, it's commonstance to understand a white vegan as fundamentally suspicious as a standard among radical poc.

Adopting a position of leftist, radical, or anti-oppression in all forms has no necessary relation to how much you tackle your deep, many-layered internalised racism. The way our racism comes with its own learned invisibility means that huge swathes of leftists and radicals and whatever are racist in very substantial ways.

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vacuousaptitude wrote

Interesting, not all together surprising a lot of people suck at checking their privilege I just find it interesting that you associate it with veganism. Do you think it's important to challenge speciesism?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

As I said, speciesism is fucked. So yes, it's important to challenge it.

https://mediadiversified.org/2015/12/16/veganism-has-a-serious-race-problem/ https://veganvoicesofcolor.org/2017/01/09/dismantling-white-veganism/ http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2017/04/04/vegans-must-feed-everyone-not-just-wealthy-white-people https://strivingwithsystems.com/2017/03/08/why-are-white-vegans-shook-when-you-talk-about-white-supremacy-and-capitalism-btw-they-should-be/ http://www.coreyleewrenn.com/the-white-privilege-in-vegan-moral-superiority/

These are just a few links from the first page of the first google search i did.

I know that there are places in europe where veganism is even outright associated with white supremacist groups. I've had comrades from france visit and their first assumption when they see vegans is that they are nazis. fortunately that's not the case where I live but, as I've said, there's a non-accidental link between much veganism and racism.

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