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zorblax wrote

Just because revolution is impossible under the current conditions doesn't mean it's pointless to try. Conditions can change practically overnight, and if/when they do it will be important to have the organization and numbers to incite a real revolution(not just swapping out one ruling class for another).


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zorblax wrote

Conditions will change overnight in the event of the apocalypse.

Why is it easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of Capitalism?

Certaintly not in the event of another BAD BILL being passed, or any other mundane occurance.

If you look at historical data, it's usually a 'straw that breaks the camel's back' type situation. Which is why it's unpredictable.

It's pointless to hope for revolution, because it won't happen.

You are so knowledgeable about the future!


Defasher OP wrote (edited )

They shouldn't be using the word 'apocalypse', but the end of capitalism wouldn't save the planet. We've already passed the point of no return, and switching to communism will just distribute the wealth more evenly, it won't stop humanity from consuming massive resources, especially in the West. Communists expect all the things they have under capitalism to continue once they get their revolution, so ignoring how utterly unlikely it is that billions of people suddenly decide they want to fight a bloody war against the states (that are armed to the teeth) and capital (even more armed) to achieve communism, communism isn't going to halt the collapse of the ecosystem that has already turned much of the world to desert or sea. All the science shows that collapse is inevitable. All history shows us that every empire collapses - this being the most unsustainable and polluting empire of all - the collapse will be utterly gigantic.