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ziq OP wrote

Have you deserted? How many people here have? Is anyone able to full desert without remaining plugged in to some extent to survive?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Have you deserted?

No. Right now I'm trying to build enough of an affinity group to make some version of this workable. But again, saying this only makes sense insofar as I'm projecting my own vision into the future. The world I make with others will look different.

How many people here have?

Haha, probably just you.

Is anyone able to full desert without remaining plugged in to some extent to survive?

With a few handfuls of people, and in the right places, I imagine it would be mostly possible. Getting your hands on some land, setting up some kind of resilient forest garden type of situation, a reliable water-source, and a renewable energy situation if you like.
I'd still want to access the rest of the world in order to share ideas and make ourselves known, so that'd involve some interaction with leviathan, but I'd be aiming for autarky at least insofar as, if you wanted, you could survive on just what you had there.

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1_6_1_manc wrote

Getting your hands on some land, setting up some kind of resilient forest garden type of situation, a reliable water-source, and a renewable energy situation if you like.

Wouldn't a setup like this just be seized by what was left of the state?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Deserter spaces are usually picked for being spaces that capital is largely uninterested in. More can be read about this is the two short sections of Desert starting here.

Not far from where I live, there are already places largely abandoned by capital and authority. Places with little to no functional water system, no real industry, nothing to mine. The land is a arable but nothing special and since there's not much water it's not a good investment to get involved in farming there. Interesting things could be done.

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1_6_1_manc wrote

The land is arable

If it stays that way, I'd expect capital to move in before long. I don't have the references at hand, but there's a chapter in Desert where they talk about previously forgotten land (in the far north mostly) becoming more and more desirable over time, with disastrous consequences for the people currently living there (Inuit, deserters, etc)

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

I doubt that it will in my lifetime; it's an increasingly abandoned space.

I think the tougher thing will be finding stuff to grow there as the heat increases.

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ziq OP wrote

My land is north facing and shaded by mountain, worthless to farmers who are still operating from an obsolete rulebook. They take one look at it and scoff. But north facing land is the only land where everything doesnt need to be planted in huge shadehouses to survive the summer.

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