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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote (edited )

I've been kind of concerned about this movement. I hope it is a genuine movement on behalf of the common people, but gods almighty, I've more or less gotten suspicious of any movement where the words "populist" or "nationalist" are used. Maybe those words once had neutral or positive meanings, but now both are pretty much code words for White Supremacy. So I'm worried that while this may bear some of the trappings of a genuine workers' rights movement, it'll eventually break into yet another White Supremacy, Neo-Nazi movement.

Because the idea that both White people and PoC work hard and are being screwed over by those in power? That's unpossible.

Of all the strategies the ruling classes have used to keep the 99% divided, racism may be one of the best, most effective ones. Even now, the general idea is that all workers are racist, even though the fuckers driving this Nazi revival, are about as Working Class as Donald Trump is. Or in other words, they're people born into upper-middle to upper class backgrounds who want to pretend that they are jes' plain folks, even though they haven't spent more than a day in a working class community.

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ziq OP wrote

Woo

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote (edited )

Here's a basic Yellow Vests 101 video. Again, I'm still cautious, because working class movements almost invariably involve racism in the modern era. Then again, Working Class is one of those terms I'm just generally sick of, because working class is usually code for "white men." Apparently women and PoC don't work; we make our living accusing innocent white men of sexual assault and sponging off welfare. Who knew?

https://youtu.be/zn_GHA850eQ

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ziq OP wrote

whatever their original motivations are aren't really important; as long as they're constantly warring with the state and the state is responding violently, they'll grow increasingly radical.

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existential1 wrote

There's also no cheaper fuel than removing the need for it. If you can live your life with a bike, your fuel costs are nil.

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videl wrote

i think diverse is good. since it's not so homogenized they are less governable.

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ziq OP wrote

Their refusal to accept leaders is their biggest strength; something even outright anarchist movements fail to do.

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