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ziq wrote

whatever their original motivations are aren't really important; as long as they're constantly warring with the state and the state is responding violently, they'll grow increasingly radical.


hjek wrote

I hope you're right.


existential1 wrote

There's also no cheaper fuel than removing the need for it. If you can live your life with a bike, your fuel costs are nil.


hjek wrote

Exactly! That's why I worry about what I see as a pro-car message from the Yellow Vests, and why I would not get behind it.

While smashing traffic cams on one hand is destruction of police property (which I don't have objections against), it's also arguing that speed limits are oppressive (which is a strong anti-pedestrian / anti-bicyclist agenda).

Cars are oppressive because cars kill. Speed limits don't kill.