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ziq wrote

Reply to comment by d4rk in Anarchy VS "Progress" by Stolenfromreddit

  1. Self ownership of myself? I was just responding to your analogy that had us asking others to do for us what we can do for ourselves i.e. I won't exploit human labor.

  2. It doesn't matter who makes the car; 7 billion cars will do massive damage to the environment.

  3. Not having billions to spend on a rocket is stopping them. And if they had billions, they would have gotten it by massively exploiting people.

  4. We don't have a long ass time. While you're busy giving everyone electric cars, the planet is actively expunging us in order to salvage the little non-human life that's left.

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d4rk wrote

  1. yup Self-Ownership of yourself. But not to a point where you need to sell surplus for things you actually need. Like, if you are a Nomadic Herder, you would need to trade your wool for grain eventually. This is where we can just agree to disagree on Capitalism

  2. There will definitely be an improvement to the system in order to make new cars. It's an inevitability. Without Oil grubbing companies to push for only fuel based cars, you can actually have a better way of transportation to a point where no one really needs a car

  3. Not actually, Remember it's Anarchism, there is no Monetary System of Capitalism to stop you from making a rocket to Mars

  4. So why not start now? If we start late obviously oblivion will reach us before we could get a better world.

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