Anarchists here are often better than most so this isn't entirely directed at all y'all, but its something that's been bothering me.
Why do anarchists continue to talk about how great things will be after the revolution? Which revolution do you mean? The one ongoing in Chiapas, the one in Rojava? Or is the only true revolution one that happens without any effort in a western country that has a strong enough position to declare to the world "we're done with capitalism lets move on"?
It's a bad joke to talk about the revolution whilst others are ongoing. Or is Rojava not up to snuff because they haven't entirely dissolved the state whilst fighting off both European imperialist and literally ISIS alike? Are the Zapatistas not enough because they haven't yet liberated all of North America for you, the poor American anarchist arm-chairing about them online?
Why is it these revolutions aren't enough? Why can't you support them, or even join them?
This is mainly a vent of frustration after seeing so many online spaces (especially Reddit, which I recently got dragged into again and regret returning to) refer to Rojava as a statist mess, or the Zapatistas as a failed revolution, whilst responding to important social issues such as racism and sexism with the simple "it'll be fixed after the revolution", as if they don't understand that "the revolution" is ongoing, and requires they offer assistance and effort to it. To whine about how the revolution hasn't come is only counter-productive in sapping support towards the legitimately ongoing revolutions in favor of your utopian view that no oppressed peoples are actually in a position to obtain.
My central point is this- the revolution has started and is ongoing. Are you going to lend your support or go jack yourself off to texts from dead utopian white guys instead?
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People who say that are mostly naive kids who actually think anarcho-communism / syndicalism / Bookchinism is going to magically topple the system and create an instant egalitarian utopia where they'll continue to have all the same shiny stuff they have under capitalism but without bosses, landlords, presidents and other bullies to boss them around. In other words they're fantasists without a modicum of common sense or self-awareness.
Because actual anarchist movements don't meet with their fantastic vision of global social anarchism aka USA: New Egalitarian Flavor with extra sprinkles.
They don't and when you explain it to them they throw spiteful tantrums to avoid having to learn it because it breaks with their ridiculous anarcho-liberal dogma. Then they'll dismiss you as a postie or a primmie or whatever the latest anlib pariah is.
Because they're lowkey white supremacists and anti-feminists. Have you ever tried to talk about race on r/anarchism? It'll make you tear your hair from your scalp.
The second one obviously. And if you dare dismiss one of those dead (or living: Chomsky) utopians, you'll feel the full brunt of the collectivist struggle session that allows them to remain perpetually useless. On reddit they'll even attack you for speaking ill of Stalin, Mao and Lenin now, somehow (hint: because they never actually understood what anarchy is).