Submitted by zzuum in Anarchism

If you don't havea vision of a so called perfect society that you strive for, what's the point? How can you elect officials or support policies if you don't even have a bigger picture to relate them to?

Like liberals and conservatives alike decry leftists as not being practical. Why the fuck should we be practical? Practicality has led the world to colonization and wars and slavery, lack of progress in every social sphere, and destroying the world.

For example, let's take the conservative stance on climate change in the US. They believe that, at it's most liberal interpretation, protecting the Earth shouldn't interfere with business. Ok, so your vision of a perfect society is one in which corporations control a planet hot as hell and unlivable? Where's your god damn imagination?

IDK if that made sense to anyone

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ziq wrote

I mean, they do have a utopia, it's just one where abortion is punished by death and every child has coal-stained fingers.

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zzuum OP wrote

I guess this rant is more directed towards "the common Man" rather than the elites. Like the Christan conservative down the street. Like what's your goal, put all the brown people in jail so when Jesus makes his return he can handle them with ease or something?

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rot wrote

I'd consider myself a non-utopian Anarchist. There's no perfect society that I strive for ideals yes but not a form of society that I try to make society conform to.

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surreal wrote

cause some people just don't give a fuck, they 'yolo' their life with destructive materialism and the ultimate drug which is power, a culture that lacks empathy and ethos.

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jaidedctrl wrote (edited )

I don't aim for a perfect, utopian society-- but I want a significantly better society.
Even an anarchist, communist society wouldn´t be Utopian: there´d still be pain, conflict, and violence (just not nearly as much).

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boringskip wrote

i agree, we're really just working toward a utopia that irl would sound too weird

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throwaway wrote

David Graber starts out 'Fragments of an anarchist anthropology' with a short sentence on this topic, it goes like this:

If you're not an utopian, you're definitely an idiot

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