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Splinglebot wrote

recently got downvoted on r/politics for suggesting that voting was not the most effective way of causing meaningful change

I tried to give examples of rights and privileges that were not earned because people voted for slightly better rulers such as the abolition of slavery, the eight hour work day, minimum wage, the civil rights movement, but apparently "all of these things required politicians to do something who people voted for". Seriously people, politicians don't give a fuck about you or your vote. They'll only ever budge when the system's power is put under threat.


edmund_the_destroyer wrote

I'm sympathetic to the perspective that voting is meaningful. We're taught that in school and it's an implicit assumption in mainstream media.

My formal education covered trigonometry, geometry, Shakespeare, diagramming sentences, the Civil War, the Roman Empire, and World War 2 in elaborate detail. It probably had less than two weeks of content, total, on the Civil Rights movement, the labor movement, the women's suffrage movement (which by definition accomplished its goals without voting rights), and so forth. And anarchist philosophy and political theory were not mentioned at all. We read 1984 and Animal Farm in class but were never told - our teachers probably didn't even know - he was an anarcho-communist.

So even as one of those highly educated liberal elites at age 35, most of the ideas that are common on this site were alien to me. Is it any surprise I believed in voting as the primary instrument of change?