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ziq wrote

I still see no reason you need to force the kid to come with you. Just say you're not buying it, walk away and they'll follow. If they cry, they cry. No law against crying.

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ergdj5 wrote

If they don't follow, I get arrested. That's the issue. I do have to force them to come with me.

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ziq wrote

I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time the state forced you to obey its commands that day.

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ergdj5 wrote

It isn't, but I'd rather not go to jail and leave the kid in the hands of the state.

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noordinaryspider wrote (edited )

I'm sorry, but there is in the United States. Child Protective Services is beyond the scope of Raddle and completely inappropriate to discuss here in the context of a metaphor but I need to correct some potentially life-destroying misinformation.

Anyone can report a United Statesian parent for child abuse/neglect by calling an anonymous tip line and can and is done for the same reasons all the downvotes and "ziq iz a bad despot" posts keep appearing here but with afk consequences that can cost more than money.

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ziq wrote (edited )

I wasn't trying to suggest leaving the building without the child. In my experience (with nephews tho and not living in a police state like the US) if you say you're leaving, they follow. But this post was never meant to be parenting advice and I kinda wish I had never got into this pointless rhetorical question comment chain.

All I wanted to do was talk about the definition of anarchy. In practice, living anarchy isn't always doable because of personal danger. Anarchy is the ideal but compromises always happen when we try to survive in a screwed up world.

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noordinaryspider wrote

Exactly. Just like parenting. And it's a sucky metaphor because it's painful for both of us right now but also a very apt one and probably healthy for the community for us to just deal and publicly pm, but I'm just not sure my language skills are up for it.

There's a lot more to anarchist parenting than cute little black onesies and finding a lonely little old lady to work 24/7/365 for free.

Sorry. My baby wants a candy bar too. My baby's candy bar costs 140GBP an hour, my self respect, and hopefully not my own mind and #OccupyBaby's teens or (perhaps, since some foster homes are good and #OccupyBaby looks like Antwon Rose with waist length cornrows) his life.

The more experienced anarchist on Raddle who is also a less experienced parent has taught me to just shrug, remind you never to get between a mother bear and her cubs, and I'll match your "vagina is not a clown car" by raising you a "that may be true, but your clown car is not a vagina either so I'm not gonna hump it."

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Freux wrote

But again this is if they follow, there is no point in bringing them out if they simply follow you. It's good to keep in mind the walking off before forcing them out.