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ziq OP wrote

Yes. Forcing authority on anyone is best avoided. So avoid it. Being embarassed by their tantrum isn't justification to use force.

..Or don't avoid it but be aware that you're manifesting archy; not anarchy.

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ziq OP wrote

We don't live in a perfect world.

Anarchists living in industrial capitalist nation states are forced to make decisions like that everyday. Every time we go to work or walk down a street we're subjecting ourselves to archy.

In a perfect world we wouldn't need to deny a child anything. In a perfect world a child wouldn't feel the need to manipulate you into buying a lump of plastic.

We don't live in a perfect world.

Just strive to do your best to avoid creating more archy.

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ziq OP wrote

I still see no reason you need to force the kid to come with you. Just say you're not buying it, walk away and they'll follow. If they cry, they cry. No law against crying.

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retiredshared5 wrote

If they don't follow, I get arrested. That's the issue. I do have to force them to come with me.

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ziq OP wrote

I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time the state forced you to obey its commands that day.

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retiredshared5 wrote

It isn't, but I'd rather not go to jail and leave the kid in the hands of the state.

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ziq OP wrote

I wasn't suggesting you not obey.

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retiredshared5 wrote

Ah, my bad. Usually I don't obey, so I assumed that was the insinuation.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

I wasn't trying to suggest leaving the building without the child. In my experience (with nephews tho and not living in a police state like the US) if you say you're leaving, they follow. But this post was never meant to be parenting advice and I kinda wish I had never got into this pointless rhetorical question comment chain.

All I wanted to do was talk about the definition of anarchy. In practice, living anarchy isn't always doable because of personal danger. Anarchy is the ideal but compromises always happen when we try to survive in a screwed up world.

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