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Anarcropolis wrote

I think there's a problem with using hierarchy because that means that there is a power unbalance. I understood justified hierarchy as different from coercive hierarchy b/c what justified it was the lack of force.

"A fully voluntary open communication between people" wouldn't be considered justified hierarchy I guess because there is no power being used to force compliance, but I thought of "justified hierarchy" as a trade off: You have knowledge or skills that will benefit me or the community so I will follow your directions. It's temporary and voluntary.

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ziq wrote (edited )

I don't see an open exchange / transfer of ideas as a hierarchy. It's just basic interaction; communication.

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Anarcropolis wrote

I think I might have misunderstood what "justified hierarchy" meant. GaldraChevaliere and I had similar ideas about it and what you said to them made sense. I was under the impression that jh was not real hierarchy just expertise in a field being applied- taking an expert's instructions or opinions is not really hierarchy in the sense of top-down coercive force

What would you call "hierarchies of skills" then?

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ziq wrote

Communication?

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Anarcropolis wrote

Yeah but there's an element of direction, of organization that places the more experienced in charge. We're communicating but I'm not convincing you to do anything for me

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ziq wrote (edited )

Well look at this thread. We're exchanging ideas. I'm imparting an idea to you without being in charge of anything. You're doing the same.