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ziq wrote (edited )

Why am I not surprised to see you linking to that Trotskyist rape-apologist rag here?

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Dumai wrote

for as more-anarchist-than-thou as this guy acts he sure can't seem to find any genuinely anarchist sources to support his weird hate boner for "idpol"

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anarchist_critic wrote

That's the "shooting the messenger" fallacy. Attack the argument, not the source.

Also, you post non-anarchist authoritarian idpol shit here all the time, so shut up.

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ziq wrote (edited )

not when the message is as shit as the messenger

non-anarchist authoritarian

please, keep telling me what anarchy is. you're so keyed in bro.

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anarchist_critic wrote

Ahh, the glory of rejecting "western reason" so thoroughly that the only comeback you have is "this is shit".

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wild_liger wrote

Lol that headline is straight-up identity politics in action.

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anarchist_critic wrote

Class analysis isn't idpol. Class is a structural position in the material production process, not an identity.

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Dumai wrote

please at least read e.p. thompson or something and catch up with what the rest of the world has been doing

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anarchist_critic wrote

Where does E.P. Thompson say "class is an identity not a structural position"?

Tip: he doesn't.

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Dumai wrote

not exactly, but his work was a huge step forward in recognising the cultural contigency of class categories and identity

AT LEAST read him and catch up with like, 1963

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

Again, with the anti-Idpol, all those smug cisgender brosocialists lecturing women and minorities as to why they must simply put aside their concerns for the revolution, as if when we've overthrown the government or society, then we'll look at our checklist and start working on "Ending racism forever!" or something. White men can ignore Idpol--heck they benefit from Idpol--but everyone else doesn't have that luxury. Whether we choose to acknowledge it or not, Idpol shapes the lives of Women, LGBT, and PoC.

I don't know when I'll ever stop posting a link to this cartoon, but it remains so apt: https://coinsh.red/p/Liberal_Intellectual_On_Why_We_Should_Ignore_Identity_Politics.png

I'll agree with the Brosocialists that class is a major source of oppression, one we should devote our lives to overthrowing, but it is majorly simplistic to assume it affects all groups of people equally. Like LBJ said, "White poverty is not the same as Black poverty."

The central ideal behind the Left is that everyone should feel free to live their lives as they see fit, so long as it harms no one else in the process. Idpol isn't a distraction from the cause; Idpol IS the cause in a nutshell. A liberation doesn't count unless it liberates everyone.