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ziq wrote

"Some white men have decided the left has nothing to offer them because of identity politics so they've embraced identity politics by devoting themselves to Trump"

Pretty much sums up what utter nonsense this piece is.

You're not a post leftist, OP, you're just shit. I hate when shit hears the term 'post-left' and decides to attach themselves to it so they can keep pretending they have any kind of radical bone in their body. You're the full embodiment of f/whiteness.

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ziq wrote

The best part of that page is the link to another article mid way through: "Soros & the £400k Question: What constitutes ‘foreign interference’ in democracy?"

Asks RT.

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anarchist_critic wrote

Attacking the source.

You have a problem with Russia Today? You'd rather we only post stuff from western colonial media outlets, and not from countries with less than average GDP?

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ziq wrote

no bro I'm attacking you and your politics, the shitty far-right source is only secondary.

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anarchist_critic wrote

You have a real obsession with shit, don't you? Did you used to get spanked for pooping your nappy or something?

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ziq wrote (edited )

People like you always have shiteating grins permanently plastered on your pasty faces. It seems perfectly reasonable to me to feed you my shit.

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anarchist_critic wrote

You're larping a South Park character, right?

Next post will be "eat penguin shit you ass spelunker".

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anarchist_critic wrote

You're flailing around throwing insults without actually engaging with my politics in the slightest. You can call me shitty, I can call you shitty, it's a draw, nothing achieved. Why bother?

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ziq wrote (edited )

you have no politics to engage with

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anarchist_critic wrote

OK, here's some political claims.

People aren't reducible to their attributes or subject-positions.

Each individual has different experiences. Positionality is irrelevant to this.

The existence of police, prisons, schools, and work are just as much "structural oppressions" as racism or sexism.

Zero tolerance is authoritarianism. Perspectivism requires situational nuance.

Different white people think differently. There is no "white reason" or "white assumptions".

Different black people think differently. There is no "black experience" or "black point of view" or "black view of racism".

Whether something's racist is best determined by looking at observable patterns and not by reference to anyone's experience or positionality.

Oppressions such as race and gender are effects of spooks, and reinforcing their importance reinforces the spook.

Domestic violence is a downward displacement of legitimate anger with social level oppression, not a primary structure in its own right.

Disagreeing with someone's claims is not "silencing", "violence", or "erasure". It is not a threat to the person's existence, because we don't have to be agreed with by everyone to exist.

Criminalising things aids a bigger enemy so as to score victories over smaller enemies.

Criminalising things does not make them any less likely to happen. Sometimes it makes them more likely to happen.

Imposing a spook as more important than someone's uniqueness is oppressive, whether it's done by a "privileged group" or an "oppressed group".

Rebut away, motherfucker. (Hint: "you're shit" and "eat my shit" aren't rebuttals).

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mofongo wrote

It's funny that you're individualists when convenient and collectivists when convenient.

Also, it's common courtesy to say "I'm not racist, but..." And "I have a black friend..." Before or after saying racist things, so get with the times.

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anarchist_critic wrote

You really can't see how you're alienating everyone with this bullshit, can you?

Seriously, I am LOLing at how the best you can do is throw out the words "nonsense", "shit" and "whiteness" and deny me the labels of post-leftist(TM) and radical(TM). You literally have no arguments, just brand-labelling.

At least half of America hates you so much, they'd rather vote for a fascist than vote for a moderate version of your kind of politics. It's time you figured out why that is.

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ziq wrote

You really can't see how you're alienating everyone with this bullshit, can you?

I have no problem alienating 'everyone' (by which you mean useless white reactionaries).

At least half of America hates you so much, they'd rather vote for a fascist than vote for a moderate version of your kind of politics. It's time you figured out why that is.

lmao.

So much cringe.

Fuck voting.

Fuck the left.

Fuck America.

You literally have no arguments

Fuck putting even one iota of energy into making 'arguments' with a smug privileged piece of shit like you.

No one should be indulging your nauseatingly obnoxious theater.

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anarchist_critic wrote

Your tears taste so sweet. I am literally rolling on the floor laughing right now.

No one should be indulging your nauseatingly obnoxious theater.

Says the guy/gal/whatever who keeps posting idpol baitzkrieg then getting butthurt from the fallout.

So tell me, how are you and your tiny coterie of militant idpols going to overthrow the useless white reactionaries who apparently make up most of your country?

You've rejected individual freedom and egoism, you've rejected human rights, you've rejected class struggle, you've rejected just about anything that might appeal to anyone who isn't both 1) from a Certified Oppressed Group (TM) and 2) educated in the correct ways of articulating their experience... aside from a handful of guilt-ridden white college kids who'll act as your cannon fodder. I seriously wanna hear how you think you're gonna make an insurrection, revolution, whatever out of this.

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Dumai wrote

are we really gonna play this game again?

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anarchist_critic wrote

Apparently, yes. Ziq and Tequila keep posting idpol bait, so deal with it.

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BigGeorge moderator wrote

No unprovoked personal attacks on other users. This is your only warning.

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anarchist_critic wrote

Was that aimed at me or ziq?

In case you didn't notice:

hey fucknut, eat my shit (ziq) so you're the clown (ziq) Peak brocialism (selver) Fuck you. Go back to Reddit (zzzzxxxyyyy) It's very hard to believe that you're writing any of this in good faith (Tequila Wolf) you have no politics to engage with (ziq) smug privileged piece of shit (ziq) bro (ziq) utter nonsense (ziq) You're full of shit. (therealmidnite)

You going to do something about this? Or is your Third Way tone-policing and zero tolerance of expressions of anger restricted to people who disagree with you?

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BigGeorge moderator wrote (edited )

An 'unprovoked' attack is the key word.

A response to an unprovoked attack is a defense, or a counter-attack.

Don't use this forum as a venue to launch unprovoked personal attacks on users, try to shame them for not being brocialists like you, and then play victim when you get flamed for it.

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selver wrote

Peak brocialism. Terrible politics.

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anarchist_critic wrote

Are you capable of rational thought, above the level of denunciation, buzzwords, and reverse sexism?

If so, tell me why the article is wrong.

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selver wrote

I'm an anarchist, which means I'm opposed to all forms of domination. That includes race, gender, etc. Workerist socialism simply doesn't address soo much of the domination that exists. Patriarchy is as insidious a hierarchy as capitalism, treating it as a minor issue is ignorant as fuck.

Not to mention the shit like this:

Neither the African and Asian nations that liberated themselves from colonialist oppression nor the USSR and Eastern Bloc states nor the left-wing movements that sprung up across Latin America in the early 21st century had any time to play identity politics.

You really want to look at the regimes that jailed & killed anarchists and minorities for guidance? Give me a fucking break. We should be doing everything we can to distance ourselves from those shitholes, not idolize their disregard for the oppressed.

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ziq wrote

Reverse sexism?

wtf rofl

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anarchist_critic wrote

According to anarchism, oppression is still oppression when you do it backwards. "Brocialism" is dismissing something based on the (perceived) gender of the speaker rather than the content of what's said. It belongs in the same dustbin as "feminazi" and "Jewish science" and all the other irrelevant ad hominem attacks on incidental features of the speaker.

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ziq wrote

your gender doesn't make you a brocialist, your brocialism does

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anarchist_critic wrote

Define brocialism then, numbskull.

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anarchist_critic wrote

"Brocialism and manarchism are umbrella terms for sexists within the radical left. Specifically used for those who believe that the creation of a socialist, Marxist, or anarchist system will inevitably bring about gender equality and that therefore no measures need to be taken other than the destruction of the hierarchy imposed by class."

When did I say this?

"Brocialism is the political, social, and economic ideology of those who claim to have Socialist or Communist leanings, but whose behaviour or beliefs are hypocritically sexist. A brocialist will probably even claim to be a feminist, and actively supportive of women's equality, sometimes in the same moment that they treat women like dirt."

At what point have I treated women like dirt?

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Protip: When someone tells you that identity politics is divisive and the only culture the proletariat has is that of the proletariat, remember that when societies assimilate one with the most political might is the one that informs the bulk of the new culture. Don't subsume yourselves to the will of some cracker-ass breeder's russian civil war larp.

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Pop wrote

Also can't you just pick the best one and post that instead of posting like three, krikey

nobody's going to read more than one

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rot wrote

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