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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote
Also, I should point out that when it comes to various indigenous groups, very few qualified as nomadic. Most of them, the extent of their wandering, was that they had a winter home and a summer home that they traveled between. Others would stay in a place until the land was used up, move away to a new patch of land, returning to the original a few generations later after the land has had time to repair.
Whatever the circumstances, in the wake of a collapse, what will emerge, are different kinds of living, not just one, because the One-Size-Fits-All approach we've been using, doesn't fit anyone. Different areas have different needs. We've only been able to pretend otherwise for so long, thanks to oil, that we can ignore the reality of the land, but once the last of that is used up, people in Phoenix, Arizona will be forced to discover that they are, in fact, living in a desert, and a person living in a desert, simply can't expect to have the same kind of living (houses, food, etc.) as someone living in, say, Kalamazoo.
ziq OP wrote
That's gonna be a rude awakening. I doubt even 1% of them would stay in the desert without AC and imported food / water.
Random_Revolutionary wrote (edited )
Is this the kind of life you want?
Not trying to mock you btw, just curious.
ziq OP wrote
I don't live in a fantasy.
I'm also a lifelong vegan.
Fossidarity wrote
Lifelong? That's really impressive, you must be lucky to be raised vegan.
ziq OP wrote (edited )
Not really, I was 7 when I made the decision to refuse to eat meat, shortly after realizing what meat was, and it took a few more years to stop eating dairy and eggs. But I'm in my 30s so I have little memory of not being veg. When my mother was pregnant with me she couldn't eat animal products without throwing up, so I like to think I've always being built to be vegan.
edmund_the_destroyer wrote (edited )
The whole article was fascinating, thanks for posting it. One side note:
The web of food sources that the hunting-and-gathering Ju/’hoansi use is, exactly as Scott argues for Neolithic people, a complex one, with a wide range of animal protein, including porcupines, kudu, wildebeests, and elephants, and a hundred and twenty-five edible plant species, with different seasonal cycles, ecological niches, and responses to weather fluctuations.
(emphasis mine)
I have a local acquaintance that makes a serious hobby (edit: maybe hobby is the wrong word) out of eating edible wild plants. He is a vegan and only buys food during the coldest winter months. He laments the starvation and hunger problems so many Americans face when he says bountiful food is available within a few miles for most people most of the year if you know what to look for. However, he was careful to warn me you need to be absolutely certain you are correctly identifying the edible species because there are countless ways to kill yourself. He's got a library of books on the subject.
I bought "Stalking the Wild Asparagus" on his recommendation but I admit, I've never put it into practice.
ziq OP wrote (edited )
Downvoters, I will comment every time you mash that button and drive this post higher.
ziq OP wrote
Get over yourselves.
ConnieCommie wrote
The Case Against Civilization
there isn't one lol
ziq OP wrote
The article is literally the case.
ziq OP wrote