therealmidnite wrote on April 19, 2018 at 10:08 AM

Why wouldn't they? Democratic confederalism isn't anarchist by any stretch of the imagination - but it's close enough to be worth supporting. And calling Rojava "nationalist" makes about as much sense as calling North Korea "democratic".

ETERNAL_PRISONER OP wrote on April 19, 2018 at 11:07 PM

I'm skeptic to rojava, because there are many similar movements in history, which were supported from western leftists because they thought it was a genuine leftist venture. I mean for example, Khmer Rouge or maoist china in the 60s/70s. But afterwards these movements revealed their true, reactionary nature and the western left were deeply disappointed.

therealmidnite wrote on April 23, 2018 at 12:53 AM

Anarchists had predicted what the true nature of MLism and Maoism was all about long before "communism" became the west's favorite boogeyman - so if authoritarian lefties were disappointed in their false messiah's eventual behavior it's their own damn fault for blindly following those unworthy dogmas. The behavior of the YPG is not opaque to the rest of the world, and there is zero evidence that they are planning to massacre their way to some pie-in-the-sky state-sponsored "utopia".

ETERNAL_PRISONER OP wrote on April 23, 2018 at 5:31 PM

What makes you so sure about the legitimacy of Rojava? Are you an active member of the movement or do you just get your information from the media? You are right, it is dumb to follow blindly unworthy dogmas. And because of that reason, I'm unsure how to judge this issue.

therealmidnite wrote on April 23, 2018 at 9:53 PM

I've got news for you... everything you know about the "Khmer Rouge or maoist china in the 60s/70s" comes from media, too... or did you think books don't count? If you are unsure how to judge this issue, I'd suggest you... don't judge, perhaps? But not all of us are waiting until Rojava has been crushed into the sand and analyzed by fifty thousand historians over a hundred-year period before making up our mind about it. So unless you have some proof that the wild accusations made about the YPG aren't just the fantasies of some fascist government employee in Ankara, I will be supporting them in whatever way I can.

ETERNAL_PRISONER OP wrote on April 24, 2018 at 11:58 AM

I just can't support something, when I'm not convinced about it. That's all.

therealmidnite wrote on April 25, 2018 at 2:56 PM (edited on April 25, 2018 at 2:56 PM)

That's fine. Nobody said you have to. Just remember that the days when an "anarchist" revolution was an actual possibility came and went a long, long time ago - and it's not coming back. We may have to make peace with the fact that any future movements towards anything resembling "autonomy" will most likely be driven by people who share some of our ideas, but perhaps not our dogmas.

ETERNAL_PRISONER OP wrote on April 25, 2018 at 4:43 PM

You are right. Your reply encouraged me to rethink my position. Thanks, comrade!