Why I'm Anti-Schooling

Submitted by Cherimoya in Anarchism

Compulsory state-enforced education is simply mass psychological abuse that creates an obedient labor force for the capitalist class and prepares children for a lifetime of the state's monopoly on violence and crushing of dissent.


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dellitsni wrote (edited )

Here in Denmark, school has now become mandatory for kids as young as six years old, and kids in kindergarten are being given iPads instead of outside play and social interaction.

At six, kids will be tested, forced to sit down all day long and listen to a teacher, forced to learn the alphabet and mathematics... That's fucking abuse if you ask me.

Children should be allowed to develop themselves, and in that age, development comes very naturally through play and social interaction. Don't send your own fuckings kids to school when they're six years old, that's insane. Don't buy them iPads and school laptops at that age, what the fuck has gotten into the parents? Your child will become a dysfunctional tool incapable of complex emotions, critical thinking and happiness. They will be addicted to authority and their school iPad, and will never be able to live their life without someone holding their hand and guiding them through.



ziq wrote

I'm unsure about the source but this comment about narcissistic parents and how the system enables them is relevant:

The reason that schools don't prepare people to become good parents is simple:

  1. Public schools are government institutions.
  1. Bad parents produce broken people.
  1. Broken people are easy to manipulate and control.
  1. Government leaders like it when their subjects are easily manipulated and controllable.
  1. Government is nothing but a ponzi scheme: What better way to get an inexhaustible supply of unaware, uncritical dupes than implementing methods that ensure the populace becomes the worst parents possible?

Copenhagen_Bram wrote

oh shit how do I escape?


zzuum wrote

For the most part, (if you are in school) not much you can do. But the fact that you are here implies that you at least realize it's a shitty system, which is a start.


TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

imo before 12 school is really unefficient and isnt adapted to children, but after that, it's kinda ok (at least in france). but I'm biaised bc I like learning.


ziq wrote (edited )

I always responded to being taught at school the same way I respond to any authority enforced on me. It was impossible for me to learn anything in that environment. I didn't learn anything until I had the autonomy to pursue my own subjects of interest and not be tested on what I learned.


TheLegendaryBirdMonster wrote

yeah I learned about as much at school as I learned going to museums with my family on weekends or reading books. but I've got a rich cultural heritage and had good parents, so it may not be the same for everyone.

now that I'm in university it's much better, teaching is really fast and dives deep. I'm mind blown everyday, it's so rich and dense. in our current society I dont believe there is anywhere where you can amass as much knowledge as fast as in university, and I know I wouldn't learn as much if I self taught myself, but I've also got poor self-discipline.

(plus since I live in france and am poor, school is free and I get scolarships so it's a zero-sum game).


braketheboxes wrote

Those in power won't educate you to get them out of power. It is designed to produce economic units to produce, consume and be subservient.

Knowing this it falls upon us to educate ourselves.


RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

When it comes to physical skills, we've accepted that the age at which a child starts walking, has little to do with future abilities. Maybe the kid who walked at nine months will be an awesome athlete, but they could just as likely be a total klutz or absolutely ordinary in terms of athletic abilities.

Yet for some reason, we can't apply this thinking to mental aptitude. If Frank is reading at age four, but it takes Rachel until age eight to really get it, Frank gets shuffled into Gifted and Talented Programs, while Rachel gets put in remedial programs. Even though it's entirely possible that when both kids are thirteen, they are reading and functioning at more or less the same level.

We all know that children learn at different rates and often in spurts; what they don't know now, they may suddenly know a few weeks from now. A one-size-fits-all rote learning system does not, in fact, fit all and damages everyone, even those who come the closest to fitting it. Therefore, too often, we see this reoccurring situation in classrooms: there are some of the kids who are getting the lesson, but there are also some who are bored to tears, because they already know this stuff and can't we move on, while there's another group silently crying, because they did not get the previous material, so they don't understand this stuff.

Anyone who has been around a kid knows that they are learning machines. Kids are constantly asking questions, because they are filled with natural curiosity and want to understand the world around them. You really don't need to make them learn: if they want to learn, they will use whatever means at their disposal to learn more about something they're interested in. Really all they need is support and materials.

Our model was based around a factory-type model, where children are the bottles and as they head down the line, they get more liquid poured into them, until they are full and ready to be sent out. Of course, there are several obvious things wrong with this metaphor.


Infinity wrote

People learn in unique ways. I find the school environment beneficial. I also think that it's really good for children to be in a school environment as I was not given that right growing up in my teenage years. Because of this denial, I grew up as a shell of a human being which I have had to work on a lot.

When I was living in nature the feral children had no school. They learned useful skills, but at the same time they wanted to learn things like math, and reading and the parents simply didn't have a lot of time or resources to teach them those things. I learned in a childhood education textbook that was part of my friend's curriculum for her teaching credential that children who thrive often do so because they are raised by the community. This is why many Chicano children beat the odds and move on to higher education. Children learn from being able to associate with others and develop new experiences. It's really important that children are exposed to many different things, and what better way to expose them than through school.

Things are not white or black. While our school systems can stand improvement, school is good. School is a good good thing. Knowledge is power. There are certain things you just can't learn on your own. Many things require interaction in order to grasp.


Infinity wrote

School is kind of like the Saturn archetype. Anyone can do the things that they want to do when they feel like doing them, but results come to those who do the things they want to do when they don't feel like doing them.

People who run marathons often train until it hurts. A lot of people do this by hiring a coach. Teachers are kind of like knowledge or education coaches. They can be.

Also, someone said above about all the computers and tablets in the classrooms now... that's how it is in star trek. Technology can be used as an advantage.