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amongstclouds wrote

Do you really think that the day worldwide communism is implanted it will be a permanent fixture and that it will somehow 'work'?

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________deleted wrote

As far as I understand, anarcho-transhumanism would only exist if communism existed. So within this scenario being presented, yes.

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Dumai wrote

saying "well MY politics only make sense with reference to this idealised social model that must be reified into existence first" doesn't actually make your case look any stronger

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amongstclouds wrote

I'm talking about the material conditions as they stand right now. This technology is already on the rise and it looks to only be concentrated in the hands of those who would abuse it.

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________deleted wrote (edited )

But those wouldn't be anarcho-transhumanists, they'd be capitalist-imperialists. A big reason to support anarcho-transhumanism is to provide a non-oppressive alternative to capitalist-imperialist-transhumanism.

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________deleted wrote

If a political theory doesn't evolve with the times, it will be left behind.

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amongstclouds wrote

Yes, so let's not be critical of our own faults and imperfections and allow history to continue it cycles on and on and on.

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_ziq_ wrote (edited )

Honestly, that sounds a lot like what would happen to people too poor to afford gene alteration.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

Gene alteration is actually embarrassingly easy to get your hands on.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

Ok I'm setting a boundary now. Do not engage with me further.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

You don't disagree with my ideology because you're too fucking dense to know what it is. And you're not pointing out my privilege because I'm fairly certain you don't understand that either. What I have seen however is you act in wildly toxic and abusive ways towards not only myself but others as well. You ignoring the boundary I just set to take another shot at me is further proof of you being an absolutely garbage human being. You are not my comrade, not anyone else's. So in short. Go fuck yourself, absolutely completely, unequivocally, go fuck yourself you arrogant petty little shit.

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________deleted wrote

Then you should support communist / anarchist transhumanism so that everyone gets access to the technology.

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_ziq_ wrote

everyone gets access to the technology

That would only be possible in a world with unlimited resources.

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________deleted wrote

Communism and post-scarcity go hand in hand, so that's not really an issue. There's more than enough for everyone, but capitalists keep it restricted to only the wealthy.

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soylentbomb wrote

It doesn't already have a coherent model of interacting with the larger world, nor with the material conditions of our selves.

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amongstclouds wrote

Oh, you're making this about 'political purity' because you want me to agree with you. Okay. This was fun!

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________deleted wrote

I mean, I didn't decide what 'anarcho-transhumanism' is, it's been pre-defined as a communist, hierarchy-less ideology.

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Pop wrote

I think part of what's being questioned is whether the definition is even coherent in the first place

like how 'anarcho'-capitalism is also incoherent

since it's not clear that technology of this kind is compatible with anarchy

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________deleted wrote (edited )

You just disproved your own point. If us communists can own iphones under capitalism and still be communists, then anarcho-transhumanists can modify themselves under capitalist-transhumanism and still be anarcho-transhumanists. As long as you support the equal distribution of technology, then you still qualify as an anarcho-transhumanist. Capitalism giving you more than others because you were born middle class in the West doesn't change that.

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