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Reply to comment by ziq_TNG in So do anarcho transhumanists support eugenics? by watermelon

How would they suffer?

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Why would we need to compete with each other under communism?

And they can always have their DNA recoded after the fact. No reason it needs to be restricted to the unborn.

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As far as I understand, anarcho-transhumanism would only exist if communism existed. So within this scenario being presented, yes.

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But those wouldn't be anarcho-transhumanists, they'd be capitalist-imperialists. A big reason to support anarcho-transhumanism is to provide a non-oppressive alternative to capitalist-imperialist-transhumanism.

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If a political theory doesn't evolve with the times, it will be left behind.

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watermelon OP wrote (edited )

Honestly, that sounds a lot like what would happen to people too poor to afford gene alteration.

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Then you should support communist / anarchist transhumanism so that everyone gets access to the technology.

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watermelon OP wrote

everyone gets access to the technology

That would only be possible in a world with unlimited resources.

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________deleted wrote

Communism and post-scarcity go hand in hand, so that's not really an issue. There's more than enough for everyone, but capitalists keep it restricted to only the wealthy.

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I mean, I didn't decide what 'anarcho-transhumanism' is, it's been pre-defined as a communist, hierarchy-less ideology.

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Pop wrote

I think part of what's being questioned is whether the definition is even coherent in the first place

like how 'anarcho'-capitalism is also incoherent

since it's not clear that technology of this kind is compatible with anarchy

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You just disproved your own point. If us communists can own iphones under capitalism and still be communists, then anarcho-transhumanists can modify themselves under capitalist-transhumanism and still be anarcho-transhumanists. As long as you support the equal distribution of technology, then you still qualify as an anarcho-transhumanist. Capitalism giving you more than others because you were born middle class in the West doesn't change that.

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You're an anarchist in a non-anarchist society. So I guess you're not really an anarchist...

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ziq_TNG wrote

They'd be rendered an inferior species and face the repercussions of that all their lives.

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What repurcussions? Getting picked last for baseball? If that's really a big deal then just outlaw discrimination. But there are plenty of kids getting picked last for baseball already, this would mean less of us would suffer that shame. It brings more of us into equal footing and paves the road to true equality. Think about it.

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ziq_TNG wrote

Widening the gap between the weak and the powerful even further isn't going to create equality. And 'outlawing' discrimination is easier said than done. Social dynamics are a lot more complicated than that.

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