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kestrel77 wrote (edited )

many of the goods discussed are cultural items, not luxury items

i'm talking about fucking. signals here. like physical infrastructure to communicate in case there's a hurricane or wildfire or other natural disaster.

do you think that long distance communication and trade are inherently racist?

i'm not interested in forcing anyone to do anything. there are things made in some regions that can only be made in that region and are desired in other regions. resolving that issue is the purpose of this thread. you can divorce that from historically imperialist products if you wish, which was only a small part of what i mentioned. i am obviously not interested in continuing racist, capitalist policies or i would not be on this forum.

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anarchist_network wrote

How is it rascist? If these countries would also go anarcho communist for example it would be great to import and export in exchange of other workers or programs who would help them get better developing other technology, methods for agriculture, education and so on.

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anarchist_network wrote

May I ask what ideology you are?

Why wouldn't they work. Of course it would not be the same slavery in this capitalist system.

If you would get support for your region and could develop I think it would be a great opertunity.

Also for clean energy you would need special metals to build solar or wind power plants. In 80% of the world you wouldn't get these and the idea falls apart

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anarchist_network wrote

In the sense of worker solidarity it would make sense to work and get help and develope your region. I don't see a problem here. It would not be the working conditions like under capitalism.

Saying that this problem should be solved is a kind of lazy answer in my opinion. It's fact that for solar energy or wind energy or stuff with rubber you would need to import.

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anarchist_network wrote

Why would people work less in a ancol or ansyn society? That's a thing that capitalists say as a argument against libertarian socialism or social anarchism

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anarchist_network wrote

I am not saying that these people there should work for the regions but for solidarity and mutual help between these countries and regions. Of course it would be there decision and of course we would not make them export it just so we can have it like "polpotisevil" said

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anarchist_network wrote

Yes that's of course great but you can't deny that even for your perfect social anarchist society (on your picture) we would need special metals which don't exist on much of the world!

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ziq wrote (edited )

If you can't do it without exploiting others, don't do it. There are no utopias.