Submitted by bonnano_lover in Anarchism (edited )

Read Black Armed Joy and Ediciones Inénditas.

Euro anarchism is a dead end, Zapatistas and people in various Lakou communities in Ayiti done more to challenge capitalism and bring about community-level autonomy than larpers who like Little Black Cart. The CNT-FAI barely done shit compared to the Seminole and Mapuche fighters as well the various maroon communities across Turtle Island, Abya Yala, and the so-called "Carribean". You should read what the anarchist Ricardo Flores Magon said about the anarchic practices of various Indigenous peoples across "Mexico", who had been doing this despite the push by colonialism to practice capitalist individualism. The variety of communism in question discussed by Magon is an anarchic type, not the vanguardist state capitalist version pushed by tankies. As he said about some of these communities: "they didn’t need 'leaders,' nor 'friends of the working class,' nor 'paternal decrees,' nor 'wise laws' — they didn’t need any of this."

None of the resistance efforts I listed were perfect, but they done much more to bring about collective autonomy in the face of this racial capitalist world than what most white anarchist struggles had achieved. These efforts have insights worth studying. Its also worth noting that some of these Indigenous and maroon communities were more anarchic than others, though the resistance efforts of the less anarchic ones are still worthy of analysis even just to critically examine the hardship hierarchy brings.

Euro-Anarchist dogma is not inherently revolutionary. It has a long history of anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, and a softness toward white supremacy compared to the practices of maroon fighters and Indigenous people who struggle against settler colonialism. Its also not the "good" ideas that are revolutionary or radical on their own, its how their incorporated into practice.

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_caspar_ wrote (edited )

"than larpers who like Little Black Cart."

a strange jab at publishers of material propagandizing "the practices of maroon fighters and Indigenous people who struggle against settler colonialism" that no other publishers have or would.

in spite of my communist aversions, I dig what Ediciones Inéditas has put out.

~ also, you realize you are telling an anarchist crowd what they should do and should read, yeah?

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kinshavo wrote

I think the LBC reference was a lowblow to get attention here, and OP probably don't know that great part of the crowd here are very against euroanarchism whatever this means

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_caspar_ wrote

dear bonnano_lover,

your provocation gets my attention enough to respond after 3 afternoon beers in me, so here it goes..

Im not getting your measures for success here, are they qualitative at all, or purely quantitative? out of all the qualitatively interesting anarchist and anarchist-adjacent currents in the americas that you are pointing at, why is Magón's anarcho-communist euro-influence the perspective of legitimization in this?

anyhow, thanks

ps( Alfredo Bonanno is one of the more popular euro anarchists. hope this doesnt worry you too much.)

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kinshavo wrote

Very provoking and I like it! I think I have the same feeling but I won't be vitriolic about it. And bare in mind that many anarchists currents abandoned the revolution or radicalism. Many embraced nihilism and some just bitterness. I would judge it by any merits or lack of them.

Maybe there is this idea that what you mean by challenging the capitalism is just defeated in their view and there's only resisting in itself, creating a live for oneself an their immediate surroundings. You say about "collective autonomy", I am unsure about this concept just cos I don't know what collective I will refer to. I saw one quote the other day that said that anarchism was the equilibrium of the individual and collective, or engaging in one without forgetting the other. Something for that effect. I am using this prism to navigate lately (I don't want to make a new synthesis)..

It has a long history of anti-Blackness, anti-Indigeneity, and a softness toward white supremacy compared to the practices of maroon fighters and Indigenous people who struggle against settler colonialism

I think the new cosmology of anarchism need to be born before we can bury this old skeleton, colonialism is one of the axis of this Leviathan. I personally believe that this need to be anticiv, not primitivist necessary, but anticiv in a plural way, questioning everything we have today.

larpers who like Little Black Cart

Ouch, someone smashed down button

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fortmis wrote (edited )

is "euro-anarchism" actually a dogma/subset of anarchism? Or are you just talking about anarchists based in europe?

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