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Fool wrote
I only know naughty ones.
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uanon wrote
This may prove useful. It's a series of debates on the topic, including a lengthy essay on "cybernetic communism" and rebuttals to it.
https://c4ss.org/content/52919
As well as c4ss authors in general.
ArmyOfNone wrote
C4SS
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uanon wrote
Well, they're relevant to the topic, what's your problem with them?
subrosa wrote
The center for the stateless society is fairly consistent with the anti-state anti-capitalism and the anti-capitalist anti-statism. But they're also quick to conjure Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek, Marx and Engels, David Graeber, M.I.T. professors, transhumanists and democrats. And things like that.
ArmyOfNone wrote (edited )
And there's also that big, big elephant in the room... that pale petty bourgie transhumanist pedant with an empty stare under his ovoid glasses. Hmmmmms yes that guy.
uanon wrote
I think it's great that they have a unifying idea and a loose band of authors who approach it from different perspectives, some with their own idiosyncracies.
Regarding cybernetic communism, I don't find it convincing at all, but I think it's respectable that they invited a person who genuinely tried to articulate that, and debated her on this. It's not like Aurora Apolito is a regular contributor to C4SS or anything. I mean, people in the anarchist mileu often accuse each other of sectarianism, C4SS online "symposiums" are anything but that.
subrosa wrote
Sure, the C4SS symposium thing is a pretty good format. I wouldn't accuse them of sectarianism.
subrosa wrote
Why I Am Not a Communist by Apio Ludd is a good one
Individualist can mean a great many things. Often used to mean little more than 'non-communist', which renders the question a bit vague.