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Joshuafall wrote

How are monkeys better off in a closet than in a zoo enclosure. I'm not sure how big the enclosure is.

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GoddamnedVoodooMagic OP wrote

I suppose that's a fair point, and maybe he didn't think it through very thoroughly (understandably so), but I still support any and all actions against zoos and liberating animals from them, and he had good intentions.

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rattledlove1139 wrote

Other articles mention dirt and decay in place he kept these animals, several being dead... i do not know if i agree good intentions. Love animals does not mean know how to care for or have ability, and can contribute to horrible markets for endangered species and species that not even domesticated (= even less used to humans, and people have even less knowledge on care). I love animals too but not right if i pick up baby turtle from outside and say my pet now.

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Joshuafall wrote

I don't like zoos but I'm a lot more troubled by animals used in research. I wish I had the courage to liberate some. I never did but I have nothing but admiration for those who do.

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GoddamnedVoodooMagic OP wrote (edited )

I'm troubled by both, although research is a lot more openly brutal, whereas zoos are more implicitly brutal and the brutality lies in the concept and behind the scenes, whereas the horrors of vivisection are able to be seen right away and are hard to hide. And yes, I agree. Those who liberate animals are my heroes, and I respect them immensely. Takes so much courage and knowledge I doubt I'll ever have, and I have no ill will towards those people. Anarchists who do have a problem with it...well, I don't understand it.

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Slyone wrote

He may have been trying to sell them off. Setting them free may have been better but I doubt they would survive long out in Texas.

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Dopeblivion wrote

That part where they call someone who saved animals guilty of animal cruelty is just fucking orwellian. Are they going to say I'm guilty of 'Aggravated Robber Baronry' when they catch me eating an old fat guy at a country club?

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GoddamnedVoodooMagic OP wrote

Considering civilization is built upon animal abuse and the genocide of non-human entities, yeah, it makes sense for the state to pull a doublespeak and say that any action which may relieve them of such a situation is, in fact, terribly abusive

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GoddamnedVoodooMagic OP wrote

And obviously, I disagree heavily and think it's truly fucked how many people genuinely think animal liberation efforts are "abusive", falling for propaganda so effectively

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