Submitted by PragmaticPaul in Anarchism
veuzi wrote
Reply to comment by PragmaticPaul in Are anarchists for or against democracy? by PragmaticPaul
The state should not be replaced. That's the point. Replacing the state means making a new state.
PragmaticPaul OP wrote
State and capitalism should be replaced precisely because we don't need them, that is anarchist societies should take their place. But what should be the structure of anarchy, the institutional framework? What promotes maximum freedom for all?
veuzi wrote (edited )
what should be the structure of anarchy
Free association. Taking part in any association, organisation, or even society generally should be voluntary. Abandoning an association for any reason, such as it not representing your interests, should not affect the means for the individual to live and be free.
the institutional framework?
A billion trillion institutional frameworks, maybe even no institutions and no common framework.
What promotes maximum freedom for all?
I'm not a utilitarian so I'm not about maximizing any values at all. Free association at least leaves the options open.
PragmaticPaul OP wrote
Not much of a clarification. If one part of the population wants plan economy only, one part market economy only, and one part a mix. All proposals can't be implemented. Majority decision is a solution.
veuzi wrote
Let the economies overlap, then. There is no reason for a singular form of economy to be imposed on a society.
Majority decision is a solution.
Is it a solution when it doesn't even resolve the conflict and leaves the minority dissenters with the conclusion of "tough shit, deal with it"?
More like an imposition.
PragmaticPaul OP wrote
"Let the economies overlap, then. There is no reason for a singular form of economy to be imposed on a society."
Sounds good. But if people won't compromise and reach a consensus, then a majority decision is needed I think.
veuzi wrote
I will refuse to abide by any majority decisions, and if it is forced on me, I will react violently.
PragmaticPaul OP wrote
Good luck with getting along with other people
veuzi wrote
Thanks. Think I'll fuck off now and go to my local dive bar where I will have no trouble with getting along with people.
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