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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I think there's a bit of repetition you do that you might be able to exchange for doing the thing once with more detail. If I can I'll point some out later.

the primitivist primer seems to make clear that it's a critique and not a program and moore heavily bases that text on perlman's initial text. do you have quotes that contradict that?

for me people like Zerzan are more representative of AP and though it's been a while since I've engaged him I'm left with the distinct impression he had a very positive project for returning to his idea/model of hunter-gatherer society. Unforutnately that's all I can say, it was almost a decade a go I last engaged this stuff outside of Bellamy's taking a shit on it in Corrosive Consciousness. That might be an interesting thing for you to engage because Bellamy does make stark distinctions between AP and his egoist/insurrectionary anti-civ thing, iirc.

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NeoliberalismKills wrote

I tend to agree with you, Tequila. I think primitivism started as purely a critique and Tucker and Zerzan have turned it into a program relatively recently. In one of Tucker's podcasts (don't remember which episode) he mentions he (maybe Zerzan too) thinks the work of critique is done and it's time to start saying what needs to be done. Part of the reason I use anti-civ rather than primitivist myself. But I'd be glad to hear arguments that say otherwise.

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ziq OP wrote

eh that's not worth completely rewriting the essay to accommodate stuff said by someone on a podcast

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ziq OP wrote

Read Corrosive Consciousness part 1 and it's making the argument that anprim isn't critical enough, that it takes certain things for granted and romanticises other things. It hasn't really made the argument that anprim is a program, just that it should go further in its critique (towards nihilism).

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