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gone_to_croatan wrote

For economy my interests gravitates between the idea of Commons (not in a Marxist sense, but I try to draw a more non-european notion, outside liberalism, so probably not the same communization definition) and the ideas of Gift Economy/Potlatch. It's a work in progress as always..

Peter Gelderloos's Commoning and Scarcity may be a good starting point, Anarchy works covers an entire section of economics too.

The concept of Potlatch is present in many situationist texts and in Bay's Immediatism but I don't know if there is a good text that covers all. Again, maybe someone can help with more robust suggestions

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gone_to_croatan wrote

And I know I can edit the wiki, but I prefer to discuss with more people (maybe I am engaged in heretic wanderings)

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moonlune wrote (edited )

a text criticizing UBI might be interesting if an economics section is added

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Fool wrote

I started looking at Kevin Carson for this topic.

Exodus definitely has some good stuff, but is really long. I don't know if there's something shorter which is more to the point.

Flicking through, I started to worry because the end section titles are related to Municipality but then...

Although many Leftists dismiss exodus-based strategies as “lifestylism,” they are in fact building a counter-system that — for all the reasons examined in Chapter Two — uses resources more efficiently than capitalism.

So a 650 odd page book (which spends a long time talking Marx) which ultimately says that Lifestylism is the best strategy for the "revolution".

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Potkea wrote

I think the articles in the capitalism & communism section suffice, but IMO we should add some mutualist stuff.

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ziq OP wrote

any ideas for mutualist texts? i can't read that stuff, it gives me a headache

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Potkea wrote

Same here honestly. Although Proudhon is pretty good.

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subrosa wrote

Been getting comfortable with my 'black label mutualist' label. None of that red+yellow = orange (basically a weak red) shit. Lacks a clear distancing from C4SS stuff, maybe I should add "bad people's" or something.

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subrosa wrote (edited )

Mutualism under an 'economics' header would likely give headaches to many more people.

There's a ton of proposals for mutual banking/credit, and continuations of Josiah Warren's "equitable commerce" project. There's Carson doing a synthesis of a bunch of libertarian currents, with keywords like "stigmergy", political economy, technology as liberating, and a focus on non-Marxist value theories. And then there's Proudhonian stuff, in other words Shawn P. Wilbur trying to bring back "collective force" type analysis. Shares about as much common ground as whatever may fall under individualism.

A list might include...

So, Idk, maybe skip on economics. Or make it a mutualism category. Or mix the commie texts with the mutualist ones, make it share a header.

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Loop wrote

I don't know many anarchist economic texts, but am on board about croatan's point on the commons.

And so similar to and part of the transverse way of the human, the dis-enclosure of capital implies its maximal decentralisation and ultimate dissolution of private property, the commodity form, and commodity relations, returning them to the commons and into a relation of being in-common. Decisions about resources would happen at the most local of levels, through pragmatic judgement taken by all those immediately affected, based on a pragmatic engagement of collective needs and desires. As decentralised, both desire- and need-based, and pragmatic, this rules out most forms of centralised socialist economy. What remains then – the full range of stateless, noncapitalist, decentralised, desire- and need-based economies – are rightly called anarchist economies. Here, stealing-back not so much a stealing as a restoration, it is to return something to the commons, to dis-enclose it as property. The antiracist praxis of unstealing has many precedents, notably for our purposes in the “stealing away” of slaves in early US history, those brief escapes from captivity taken in order to fulfil any number of tasks, “from praise meetings, quilting parties, and dances to illicit visits with lovers and family on neighboring plantations” – sets of invariably illegal acts “focused on contesting the authority of the slave-owning class and contravening the status of the enslaved as possession” (Hartman, 1997, p. 66). source

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deeppurplehazedream wrote

Kind of an aside, but we have a forum on neoliberlism and I've been trying to find some sort of anarchist critique on neoliberal ecomomic policies, like right now with the inflation-raise the interest rates-austerity is the solution ideology! If anyone knows of something or someone good...

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