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zoom_zip wrote

When u manage almost 200 slaves, commit acts of ecocide, kill fuck tons of non farm animals and do massive pollution majority of your time in the day and can literally do anything fucking else but u choose to act like a comical enemy of anarchist and have the resources and ability to do otherwise ur not an anarchist

so why do you do it? money? nobody does anything for no reason.

if u wanna reason why tbh, I have no fucking clue why I do this shit. Maybe I'm just so jaded, amoral, and low on ability to give a fuck and will to fight that its an perfect combo for me to do this shit. Maybe I'm secretly to even myself that I"m so desperate for people to support me, a way to feel needed, not alone, resources to have some more autonomy in life and a sense for adventure combined with security that getting back into the slavery game with racists and misogynists is no real problem to me and I don't really wanna get out. tho lets be fucking honest, the reason is irrelevant and I"m not going to try and excuse myself bc the reality is I'm the archy and its ok bc its my archy. You either do what u can or u don't and I wont so thats reality.

this just sounds so confused. you don’t just one day wake up and start taking actions that are inconsistent with your beliefs, but sometimes people get trapped in patterns that are inconsistent with their beliefs for reasons outside of their understanding. it seems like you can recognise that you are in a fucked up position, doing fucked up things by choice; you can see them as fucked up things, but you don’t want to change for some reason and can’t figure out why that is. and don’t want to figure out why, because it’s easier to throw your hands up and shrug and say “oh well, guess i am just slime”.

My ideas in my head havn't changed but my actions sure have

this is dissonance. if your actions don’t align with your ideas, then change your actions. if you’re holding onto the actions that don’t align with your ideas then either the ideas aren’t as important to you as you maybe think, or there’s something else pulling you to act in whatever way.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

idk, I am someone who does things and is motivated and does things for completely different things than u. So idk, u seem to be assuming I'm upset or want to change when the reality is I don't actually care too much and don't really have a problem doing the unidealistic thing if it benefits me. I've been pretty open that I don't care about being nice, being ethical and mostly am just looking out for myself. So it should be no real surprise that I step back from anarchy when in a situation where doing anarchy would be something that makes my life worse for some other purpose such as virtue or ethics or whatever

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zoom_zip wrote

i wasn’t sure if this was some kind of “we live in a society” performance art. but yeah if you literally don’t care, would you be a cop if it benefitted you? would you be a fascist? be a politician? join the military?

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

nah because all those things is just choosing to be ruled more (dear leader, the populous, police chief and millitary generals respectively). But like this isn't a suprise I"ve spent plenty of time on this site on the benefits of stock ownership (i.e. profiting from owning companies that do stuff like drill oil, build bombs for US millitary and slavery ect). I think its a poor idea now ovi but like for self interested reasons rather than virtuous ones.

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zoom_zip wrote

so

you want as much liberty for yourself as you can get, but you're fine with taking it from others, exploiting others, or doing whatever in order to get it?

like, maybe i'm not getting it, but the way you are describing yourself, you are just describing like 90% of the world population. "i just want to get as much good for myself, and fuck whatever gets trampled behind me along the way"

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

No u get it. If I can't be fucked to try and minimize hierachy then I'm not really an anarchist.

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