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lettuceLeafer OP wrote (edited )

if you can't work on veganism, how do I know you can work on revolution?"

Yeah basically.

For clarity on the reasoning behind my post. It's the summer and being stuck doing farm labor is like about as close as I can get to the emotional resiliency of for example the typical guerillas day in the life. And I wasn't really talking about ability but emotional strength. Getting shot at and killing people is one major thing but even just the concept u constantly have to move and u would just have to constantly tech for miles no matter how hot or how cold. Sometimes not being able to sleep bc the enemy is coming or running out of food and having to hike for miles and days without food ect.

Being able to practically do stuff is one but the emotional ability is another. Pushing yourself to work and work when it's hot af outside is really hard. And I had a thought to myself. I'm managing this quite well and not super concerned but shit not that I would wanna fight in a war but Im still couldn't handle the emotional trials of war despite having had times working like 80 hour weeks of manual labor in the blistering hot sun which included fighting. That shit just breaks me. 30 or 40 or manageable but fuck if I can't even take all that war would be something I'm not even close to emotionally strong enough to deal with.

Then along that thought I just of all the revolutionaries who are gonna fight capitalism but wine on Reddit about how hard it is to be vegan. Like the lack of perspective is ridiculous. If u cant handle the emotional trials of not eating cheese u r so so so far away from being able to handle even the non co.batjve aspects of being an insurgent. It's just a massive lack of perspective I wanted to poke fun at.

And I'm not really questioning it I'm more making a statement of fact. If someone cant handle the relatively miniscule emotional distress of becoming vegan they will not be able to emotionally handle being a soldier full stop. Plus if they don't have the material status to eat vegan they almost certainly don't have the resources to fight the government. War is expensive as hell.

I just like taking any chance I can get to absolutely demolish the idea of anarchist insurrection or revolution bc I don't like it ideologically, practically and I have yet to talk to someone who advocated for it who even had a ounce of idea about what doing what they suggest would be like. So U just take every chance I can get to make advocating insurrection to be uncool and make people look bad for suggesting it.

Basically u get it. I think u can do a lotta anarchy and not b vegan. But anyone who is emotionally ready to fight a war would have no problem being vegan basically.

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bloodrose wrote

Basically u get it.

Yay! I'm giving myself a cookie.

I just like taking any chance I can get to absolutely demolish the idea of anarchist insurrection or revolution bc I don't like it ideologically, practically and I have yet to talk to someone who advocated for it who even had a ounce of idea about what doing what they suggest would be like.

You might like a podcast I started listening to yesterday called "It Could Happen Here." It's an imagining of how a modern civil war of the kind we're seeing in other parts of the world could happen in the US. The podcaster doing it is a journalist and has seen some shit. He's painted a very uncomfortable picture and I think people who think they're revolutionaries would not like the reality he imagines.

Also, your job would murder me. I don't know how you do it.

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