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halfway_prince wrote (edited )

fosho, I'm in agreement with your analysis, but i think what i was primarily trying to express is just exhaustion with this kind of reddit-reactionary bullshit coming up on raddle.

i think this discussion and the fact that it's at the top of my feed is just sooooooo fucking lame and i can't help myself from responding sometimes

like a post essentially saying "if you're not vegan you can't really be committed to a movement toward liberation" is like the most exhaustingly pedantic, western-centric approach to anarchy i could possibly imagine and seems to exist near-solely in the internet sphere.

edit: this was a reactionary comment and maybe just too whiney. would delete but like i said it that's there whatever.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

how lol. Its just a true statement, if you are so powerless u cant go to a grocery store and buy and cook food you are not even like 5% close to being capable of fighting in a war. Bc its basic logic that cooking vegan food is way way easier than fucking killing cops and the army. And its funny af to make fun of people pretending they can be a soldier when they can't even cook food.

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halfway_prince wrote

aghhhh lettuce!! even if you believe this statement wholeheartedly, it's just not "a true statement"!!

I'm sorry to get upset and always position myself against you, but you really have a lot of influence on the discussion that happen on this site and i'm so frustrated that you fixate on stuff like this!!

People who are strong can act weak. People who are weak can act strong!

You are great for being vegan!! but not everyone has come to the exact ideological conclusions as you!! that doesn't make them less capable of engaging in a fight for our common goal!!

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halfway_prince wrote

if you look at my other comments in this thread the point i'm trying to make is that all of your (and other's) responses to the 1-4 list are totally fair and solid and i'm in agreement with. But those refutations don't change the fact that they are barriers to access to veganism, and not everyone has reached those same conclusions or given it the same amount of critical thought! converting to veganism takes sustained energy and engagement with the theory and practice of veganism and we need to approach that with more compassion. You clearly have thought a lot about this and not everyone has. There's a way you can advance veganism but judging from a lot of the responses i'm receiving, don't think this thread is on the right track rn.

also i see you implying that i am not myself vegan so i'll copy the same thing i posted below:

"also for all y'all downvoting me - go find your local Food Not Bombs group and dedicate some time to actually providing accessible vegan food to your community. I'm out there every week helping to provide that shit to my community but when the other mutual aid group that happens to cook meat comes around asking if we can support their cooking efforts too you know i'm right there with them as well."

I don't like that i need to say that and like "build some credibility" for you to not make personal judgements about my arguments being based in selfish justifications (since i never implied that i'm not vegan) but i'm also understanding that maybe it will help you to internalize the message i'm trying to get across.

re. the common goal thing - i should have clarified i'm not referring to some unified goal across all "anarchists" i'm literally referring to me and lettuceleafer since i've been following their posting for a long time and (so far as i can tell) i agree with the vast majority of their praxis and general ideology and think they're a dope person almost all around.

I support you in finding your own personal goal esp if it's animal liberation (even if that's not precisely what mine is).

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