Submitted by TonyTheAnarchist in Anarchism

We don't support any government. As sworn pacifists, we refuse to join their military or fight in their wars. We aren't allowed to hold public office or vote for a president because it goes against our beliefs (we only respect Jehova's laws).

Here is some information about how we've furthered human rights and conscientious objection:

https://freedomofbelief.net/articles/jehovahs-witnesses-and-conscientious-objection

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CaptainACAB wrote

Can't even escape these people on raddle.

STOP RINGING MY DOORBELL YOU FUCKS

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Styx wrote

Well, if you have 'laws' and you are prohibited from doing certain things, wouldn't that alone preclude Jehova's Witnesses from being an anarchist organisation?

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MaoistLandlord wrote

Since when are anarchists against laws? I thought laws were accepted so long as they're democratic. Rules but not rulers.

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ChaosAnarchy wrote

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MaoistLandlord wrote

Are you really saying anarchists don't believe in self government and democracy?

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Potkea wrote

We don't.

We may conclude without fear that the revolutionary formula cannot be Direct Legislation, nor Direct Government, nor Simplified Government, that it is No Government. Neither monarchy, nor aristocracy, nor even democracy itself, in so far as it may imply any government at all, even though acting in the name of the people, and calling itself the people.

No authority, no government, not even popular, that is the Revolution. Direct legislation, direct government, simplified government, are ancient lies, which they try in vain to rejuvenate. Direct or indirect, simple or complex, governing the people will always be swindling the people. It is always man giving orders to man, the fiction which makes an end to liberty; brute force which cuts questions short, in the place of justice, which alone can answer them; obstinate ambition, which makes a stepping stone of devotion and credulity...

P.-J. Proudhon

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MaoistLandlord wrote

I meant anarcho-socialists, not individualists like that guy.

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MaoistLandlord wrote

Agree to disagree.

Since I have you here, what do you think about full process democracy?

https://workers.today/china-a-democracy-that-works/

I think it's basically what anarchists advocate for.

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Fool wrote

Russian democracy was installed with American assistance, so you know it's legit!

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MaoistLandlord wrote

Of course Russia is a democracy but it's a bourgeois one. China is the only radical democracy in the world. It's normal for counter-revolutionaries to be curtailed in a socialist society. It's for the good of the people's democracy that the revolution isn't poisoned by NATO sympathizers.

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CaptainACAB wrote

Democracy only works by suppressing dissent

FINALLY, someone who supports that nonsense admits it outright!

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Potkea wrote

Chinese democracy - although its likely better than how the west paints it - is still not what anarchists advocatee for. It involves parties, laws and majoritarian rule.

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Potkea wrote

Anarchists are against all laws, opting instead for custom and free association.

ANARCHISM: The philosophy of a new social order based on liberty unrestricted by man-made law; the theory that all forms of government rest on violence, and are therefore wrong and harmful, as well as unnecessary.

Emma Goldman, Anarchism and Other Essays

In a word, we reject all legislation, all authority, and all privileged, licensed, official, and legal influence, even though arising from universal suffrage, convinced that it can turn only to the advantage of a dominant minority of exploiters against the interests of the immense majority in subjection to them.

Michael Bakunin, God and the State

No more laws! No more judges! Liberty, equality, and practical human sympathy are the only effectual barriers we can oppose to the anti-social instincts of certain amongst us.

Peter Kropotkin, Law and Authority

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MaoistLandlord wrote

So what happens if someone murders people or steals their kids?

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Potkea wrote

There are a lot of ways of dealing with this. There isn't one single, perscriptive answer. This zine (PDF) is an interesting and informative read that gives some diverse perspectives.

Suffice it to say that we don't need laws to tell us that murder and kidnapping is bad.

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Styx wrote

Then you didn't think hard enough.

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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

Tony, I have been waiting months for ur return so u can tell me if u wanna do the peek of anarchist praxis with me. Become moderators of internet forums and spread dictator apologia.

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tubers wrote

Hey Toby! Long time no see. Hail Satan!

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