Submitted by ziq in Anarchism (edited )

Jason McQuinn, editor of Anarchy: A Journal of Desire Armed told me back in 2016 that George Carlin was a subscriber in the 1990's and 2000's. I thought he was joking, but he was dead serious.

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Archaplain wrote

no way, i was just looking him up yesterday trying to find out if he really had any anarchist leanings. You read my mind lmao.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

Carlin: "I Would Love To See A Completely Anarchistic Human Race"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcjXIE8N5Vs (22:45)

he also says we need to abolish borders at the start of the interview

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

"I don't believe in my country, I don't believe in religion and god and the institutions man has made, I don't believe in commerce, but I believe in friendship"

"My affection for individual existence and individuals and the life of the sole person. When they get into numbers larger than 4 and 5, sometimes even a group of 2 will alter how a person is. You heard a woman would say Mike isn't the same when he's with those guys. People surrender something. That's why when a great love happens, the people don't have to surrender too much of themselves to make a new unit."

i'm feelin full the simpsons already did it with carlin. everything i've written about he talked about years ago w/friendship

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

Now he's talking about Ted Kaczynski and purity and the compromises we make in life and how to balance them with our ideals, using the example that he has to sell tickets to his shows. Says he admires people like Ted and that there's a place for people who take lives to make a point. Says culture has degraded all of us and all we can try to do is cling to some little portions of ourselves that are important and define us and let the rest just fly and that's why he embraces disaster.

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CaptainACAB wrote

Kropotkin? Stirner? Proudhon? Bakunin? Bookchin? Chomsky?

None of them ranted against golf or NASCAR, so Carlin leaves them in the dust.

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ziq OP wrote

what was the clip where he rails on golf courses and cemeteries?

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CaptainACAB wrote

The war on homelessness, I think.

Which is also a riff on the war on drugs/crime/terror.

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ziq OP wrote

I've always dreaded the idea of the state getting my corpse when I die, people charging to embalm it in chemicals and erect a cement slab with my name on it and charging rent for the grave

i always fantasize about digging a hole in a forest when it's time and rigging a tree to spill soil onto me without leaving a trace that i ever existed

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lettuceLeafer wrote

My dad in the past has requested to be buried on his land which is legal so I might get the pleasure of doing something like that lol

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lettuceLeafer wrote

my dad also works at nintendo bc I"m in a lets talk about my dad mood today apparently

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ziq OP wrote

Get a bunch of old stock from him and sell it on ebay. They even have new unopened 30 year old consoles in their warehouses.

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ziq OP wrote

Not legal here. Even getting cremated is illegal here.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote (edited )

It would be worthwhile to ask Jason to post any proof of that here, as a kind of beautiful archive.

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ziq OP wrote

If you're asking about whether Carlin was a subscriber to Anarchy, certainly he was for many years.

He even mentions that he read Anarchy magazine in his autobiography.

Jason McQuinn / Modern Slavery / CAL Press / Anarchy: AJODA

The magazine will be back soon.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

someone with a reddit account link the user to this thread?

edit: oh, saw your edit. you meant jason

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107a wrote (edited )

Will do.

I haven't got a Raddle account, but unfortunately those are really all the details I know. Jason McQuinn and I met in 2016 in Oakland, California where he lives. He and I had met a few times before at an annual conference that typically occurred after the San Francisco Bay Area Anarchist Book Fair. He has been editor since (I believe) the 1980's. We were talking and we got into the discussion about famous anarchists and people who subscribed to Anarchy. I asked McQuinn if they ever corresponded or anything, but he said no, they just mailed him the magazine like any other subscriber. He never mentioned getting any letters from Carlin or anything.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

I mean like I've listened to Carlin and I get this tho maybe it's just due to the age difference but I don't find him horrible and get why he's a anarchists but I would say a bad one or at least a typical one. I mean within his based jokes or whatever u get stuff about his troubles of looking at fat poeple and a couples other stuff that tbh I literally would rather watch vaush. Which I mean sure it was a but ago but it wasn't that long ago.

The concept of not being mean to people who things that don't concern u wasn't new. Carlin was just an oppressive dick. My dad one of the less based people in existance would get into fights without like people for saying ableist shit like Carlin. In fact he prob was fighting kids before Carlin said some of this stuff.

So idk, not really Carlin a bad guy or not a anarchist I just put him at tepid Anarcho Redditor status that I can along stomach bc he's charasmatic. I mean if my legacy is saying some based stuff sometimes, being a multi millionaire, containing about fat people and how feminists complain to much and then in the modern day having an overall extremely agreeable portfolio that basically anyone can pick through clips and reinforce my worldview. I know this bc Carlin is loved in Joe Rogan communities and the white supremacists alt righters at my school fucking loved him.

I mean he died in 2008 so I can def think of options who I would consider vastly better in comparison. Especially bc his real stride seems to be when he was kinda old.

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zoom_zip wrote

when this started getting posted here i immediately thought of that bit where he calls feminists cum collectors and then spends the rest of the bit talking about how he can’t look at women eating bananas without thinking about them giving him head

and there was no joke there

he just said that

it’s funny that wherever you look groups are claiming carlin as one of their own. he just said enough incendiary things in all directions that every group out there wants to claim a piece of him

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lettuceLeafer wrote

In that comedy routine the ending bit about how feminists only care about their wallets and blessed reproductive rights while grabbing his dick. Which wouldn't seem that odd for the skit but later on as I checked a source in wikipedia in his autobiography (I think) he talked about how he was so poor in 1970 his partner got pregnant but they didn't have the money to take care of the kid. And since roe V wade wasn't a think he talked about how his partner had to be blindfolded and taken to some random location for the abortion and he talked about how he can't imagine how horrible it was for her.

So its just like wtf, how could u experience that and then complain about feminists and their reproductive rights. Which is extremely cursed tbh.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

I actually watched Carlin recently bc I was feeling kinda shit and laughing physically alleviates a lot of displeasure so I ended up giving it ago. Idk I'm kinda hard to please tho I laugh it I purposefully try to get myself to laugh. So I usually do lusgh at some of the ones I view as punching up so he is in the small list of comedians I actually laugh at. Tho my humor is more internet weirdo and less stand up comic too.

I am just using this as an excuse to talk about what I want to talk about without actually engaging with what you are saying because I am prick or something. (though I think you have a point)

Based u have my full support

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SnowCode wrote

I haven't heard enough from Carlin to know about the misogyny but ye the fat phobia part really pissed me off.

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Syzygy wrote

Linklater has this scene in Slacker with an anarchist character. So it reads that Linklater was also a subscriber, though in the commentary for the film he mentions that the scene is an adaptation of a short story his friend wrote.

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kinshavo wrote

I will tell my kids this is actual footage of Murray Bookchin

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Casparin wrote

Not surprising, you can listen to everything George Carlin said and it’s not hard to realise everything he’s saying is about anarchism. That old man was mega based. RIP

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