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Sparkle wrote

Thanks for the OP, I apparently needed reminding of how toxic this place is to anyone who doesn't have the requisite religious technophobia. It's nice sometimes but damn do they love to have a go at anyone who steps one toe out of line on any issue. I wonder if the current posse spend all their free time (between posts trashing people for not wanting to live in mud huts or whatever) trashing themselves for ever touching a piece of tEcHnOlOgY. Maybe it's okay if they're violently ill the entire time they're doing it? I wonder if they'd accept "what if we try to do better without immediately killing off seven+ billion humans but we'll be vomming hard the entire time we're doing it?"

I assume I'm gonna get trashed regardless but I'd like to point out that this is a general frustration-post and not specific to this particular context. I just feel a little better putting it here because I can pretend I'm hiding behind your post when some cultist shows up to feed me my own spine for my blasphemy.

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ziq wrote (edited )

for not wanting to live in mud huts or whatever

reds always with the casual racism disguised as morality

what if we try to do better without immediately killing off seven+ billion humans but we'll be vomming hard the entire time we're doing it?"

speaking of cultists, u seem to be confusing civilization (ongoing slavery, incarceration, hunger, poverty, war, disease, mass death) for anti-(all those things)

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Kinshavo wrote

I dunno why you people think this site is a circle jerk for Anarchoprimitivist Luddites... We have plenty of people here working with computers, we have lotsa technophile subforums. And we are on the internet, it's not like we communicate with hand signs and secret meetings on caves.

Sometimes you have a need to take one user opinion as the whole site... If you want to be taken seriously knock off already with all the tired jokes about "filthy anprims"

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ziq wrote

i am pretty fucking filthy. no water for a month will do that

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Kinshavo wrote

The well thing? Jokes aside, being without fresh water is terrifying..

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ziq wrote

i don't care about me so much, it's watching my trees die one by one that kills me

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Esperaux OP wrote

I mean I think it's better to find an understanding between different people regardless. I can empathize since obviously there are genuine concerns to be voiced around things like medicine and quality of living which a few vocal types may oppose while some do not though there is definitely a lot more room to be had for nuance. I'm starting to think a lot of disagreements mainly stem from different definitions being used or the impression of there being only one single solution/outlook when dealing with broad complex problems. It's more useful to still remember everyone is concerned and passionate about very real present problems first and foremost.

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