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Esperaux OP wrote

Well respectfully speaking in the same sense that you don't oppose cancer treatment or water treatment I'd ask that you take the time to actually listen to what is actually being advocated by those who support solarpunk or a social ecologists approach in general. It's not simply giving cities, mines, and farms a new texture. In fact it very much is compatible with what self described anti civs also advocate. It involves a radical change to the very scale and rate of consumption/extraction from what we currently are used to under capitalism. This is done mainly through an immense emphasis on decentralization, diversity of methods, and addressing key systemic driving factors such as commodity production. I actually do respect your own position on the matter but I ask that you actually take the time to understand the perspective and similarities being presented from others too.