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Kinshavo wrote (edited )

Is this AnarchoPosadism? Entryism is hell 🙀

But I dig ufo stuff, Jacques Vallée have an interesting analysis of the phenomenon

Here, jacked from wikipedia:

Vallée proposes that there is a genuine UFO phenomenon, partly associated with a form of non-human consciousness that manipulates space and time. The phenomenon has been active throughout human history, and seems to masquerade in various forms to different cultures. In his opinion, the intelligence behind the phenomenon attempts social manipulation by using deception on the humans with whom they interact.

Vallée also proposes that a secondary aspect of the UFO phenomenon involves human manipulation by humans. Witnesses of UFO phenomena undergo a manipulative and staged spectacle, meant to alter their belief system, and eventually, influence human society by suggesting alien intervention from outer space. The ultimate motivation for this deception is probably a projected major change of human society, the breaking down of old belief systems and the implementation of new ones. Vallée states that the evidence, if carefully analyzed, suggests an underlying plan for the deception of mankind by means of unknown, highly advanced methods. Vallée states that it is highly unlikely that governments actually conceal alien evidence, as the popular myth suggests. Rather, it is much more likely that that is exactly what the manipulators want us to believe. Vallée feels the entire subject of UFOs is mystified by charlatans and science fiction. He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate.[10] Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.

He also proposes that the origin of the phenomenon to be multidimensional or extradimendional what this even means..

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cretin OP wrote (edited )

Yeah I really enjoy Vallée's work, even though he is a self-described 'venture capitalist' lol...I came across a google drive upload not too long ago full of UFO books and many of his books are among them in PDF format which was a great find for me! This is the link if you are interested: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vlY512iwG0yrTFE3Hha__lhBZq9zavQE

His theories are definitely some of the more interesting and thought-provoking ones in the entire field of UFOlogy and I like how he doesn't claim to definitively know all the answers, unlike a lot of the current crop of UFO authors / celebrities - many of whom just seem to be complete grifers with zero credibility.

I've actually been reading a new book Vallée co-authored with Paola Leopizzi Harris called 'Trinity: The Best Kept Secret' that is pretty interesting..here's a promo blurb for it...

"Hard evidence has existed since 1945 for the actual recovery of unidentified flying craft in the United States, according to a new research book, "TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret" written by two seasoned analysts of the global patterns behind the UFO phenomenon. Italian investigative journalist Paola Leopizzi Harris and French-born information scientist Dr. Jacques F. Vallée have teamed up to uncover the details of a New Mexico crash in 1945, fully two years before the well-known incident at Roswell and the famous sighting by pilot Kenneth Arnold in 1947.

Over several site investigation surveys Harris and Vallée reconstructed the historic observations by three witnesses, two of whom are still living, who described to them the circumstances of the crash, with details of the recovery of a nearly-intact flying vehicle and its occupants by an Army detachment. Combining their long experience in field research around the world, the authors have documented the step-by-step efforts by the military to remove the object, an avocado-shaped craft weighting several tons, from the property where it crash-landed during a storm.

Surprisingly, the literature of the field only includes a few passing mentions about the case, and only one (foreign) TV documentary has mentioned it, but the correlation between the crash of the extraordinary object and the explosion of the first atom bomb at White Sands, less than 20 miles away, has been missed. Harris and Vallée suggest that the correlation is significant for physical, geographic and biological reasons, quite apart from the obvious strategic implications.

The witnesses were able to observe not only the actual crash of the object on their property but every step of the military efforts to lift it and take it away. Fearing retaliation, they remained silent for some 60 years about what they had seen and done over those nine days at the site while the recovery was proceeding. When placed in the context of the history of chemical and physical analysis of retrieved UFO debris--an area where Harris and VallĂ©e have long collaborated—the devices observed by the witnesses raise a number of very important scientific questions."

Unfortunately I had to pay for it as I was unable to find it for free online, but hopefully somebody converts it to PDF or something soon ! :-)

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