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haulonthebowline wrote

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What I mean is there are still people who defend Hakim Beys position on child sexuality

Who?

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a_zed_9 OP wrote

This person who was tabling for AJODA. As well there seems to me a growing number of anarchists who are self proclaimed pedophiles, and some of them draw on Hakim's stance of child sexuality (and that of NAMBLA more generally) as a core part of their anarchism. Though I'll admit it seems they are more often influenced by Wolfi and Duave.

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haulonthebowline wrote

This person who was tabling for AJODA

So now you're talking about a person who was sat at a bookfair with a copy of AJODA in front of them? I thought you were talking about a comment on anews from thirteen years ago?

there seems to me a growing number of anarchists who are self proclaimed pedophiles

Only in your mind, comrade. I've been around for a decade and have met most of the people mentioned in this thread in person more than once. I've literally never heard a single person talk about what you're talking about.

some of them draw on Hakim's stance of child sexuality

Again, who?

it seems they are more often influenced by Wolfi

Wolfi's writing on insurrectionism is very popular. His one short essay on child sexuality from the mid 80s is not. In fact, it was long forgotten until Heresy distro reprinted it for god knows what reason.

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a_zed_9 OP wrote

So now you're talking about a person who was sat at a bookfair with a copy of AJODA in front of them? I thought you were talking about a comment on anews from thirteen years ago?

The comment from 13 years ago is about someone tabling for AJODA.

I've been around for a decade and have met most of the people mentioned in this thread in person more than once. I've literally never heard a single person talk about what you're talking about.

There is quite a decent sized community of pedophile anarchists on Twitter in my experience, that is who I am talking about here. If you are unaware of them that's okay but I'd prefer if you didn't make comments like "it's all in your in mind".

Again, who?

Again these self described pedophiles who are anarchists I am talking about.

Wolfi's writing on insurrectionism is very popular. His one short essay on child sexuality from the mid 80s is not. In fact, it was long forgotten until Heresy distro reprinted it for god knows what reason.

Wolfi's writing on child sexuality is popular among pedophiles and some "MAP" rights anarchists. And while this popularity may be less than the popularity of his other texts in other milues I think you are completely erasing a milue he has been influential in.

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haulonthebowline wrote

AJODA

AJODA isn't an obscure magazine. People tabled it all over the world. It was even for sale at news stands.

There is quite a decent sized community of pedophile anarchists on Twitter in my experience

But is there, really? How many people are you talking about? Ten? Fifteen?

Wolfi's writing on child sexuality...

You mean one short essay here. Stop pretending that there are books and books full of this stuff.

...is popular among pedophiles and some "MAP" rights anarchists. And while this popularity may be less than the popularity of his other texts in other milues I think you are completely erasing a milue he has been influential in.

Even the Heresy Distro person said that the text was lost until they published it a few years back. If he is influential in this shadowy group of Twitter anarchist pedophiles that you keep referring to (that no one else has ever heard of btw) it has only been so very recently.

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a_zed_9 OP wrote

But is there, really? How many people are you talking about? Ten? Fifteen?

Personally I only know maybe 50?

You mean one short essay here. Stop pretending that there are books and books full of this stuff.

Well there's also his essay "to be done with the economy of love". As well other texts on the subject in the Milue, such as this AJODA issue, or Girl Love which is promoted inside it, or NAMBLA which is both a communist org and has ties to Hakim Bey, as well as Gilles Duaves piece from the (I believe) left communist milue. So my point is just this is not some isolated thing. Plenty of people on the left and post-left make these same points about child sexuality.

Even the Heresy Distro person said that the text was lost until they published it a few years back. If he is influential in this shadowy group of Twitter anarchist pedophiles that you keep referring to (that no one else has ever heard of btw) it has only been so very recently.

I've only know these people for a little less then a year so I'm unsure how recently theve found tgese texts but it does not change that this viewpoint has existed for at least 30 years.

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