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Pash OP wrote

Reply to comment by black_fox in Law and violence ≠ state by Pash

How are people gonna defend themselves from torts? I see about three options: statism, mutual aid, or just being defenseless.

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black_fox wrote

oh people should definitely defend themselves. i recommend this primer

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Pash OP wrote (edited )

Self-defense from torts is normal mutual aid, and an important part of any community. Where I grew up, if you scream "thief!" half the neighborhood will rush over with machetes to check it out. Similar all over the world. Nothing to do with a state or cops.

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black_fox wrote

groups wielding force is not mutual aid. there’s nothing “mutual” or “aiding” about harming someone who’s harmed someone.

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Pash OP wrote

What's mutual aid then? Education and building wattle-and-daub?

What you're voicing is exactly the misconception I made the post to address. Mutual aid is absolutely about groups wielding force. The book Mutual Aid is largely about that, rather than about agriculture or childcare or anything.

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black_fox wrote

mutual aid is when i beat my neighbor with a bat for stealing a chicken

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