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_caspar_ wrote

(u.s. context) I know folks live (or used to, might be harder these days) on river boats moving up and down the mississippi. not the cleanest of waterways I imagine. I wonder how sea level rise and shifting coastlines will effect infrastructure along all coasts over the next 20-40 years or so. I certainly would not consider the southeast and gulf coast for wilder and more frequent hurricane seasons. living on one of the great lakes could be promising if one can handle being off-water during the long winters.

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ruin wrote

We’re actually considering the southeast for our next move. Super cheap land and cost of living just 30 min from the coast and the weather would make life much easier. Also like to move pretty frequently (5 years is our longest) so not too concerned with long term climate effects.

Have learned a lot living on the farm for the last five years, but it’s too expensive to maintain without a solid day job and the long winters are tough. Just staying warm is a lot of work and basics like fuel/wood and clothing add up to a considerable expense.

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interesting. I imagine the cost of living being low, but having lived through too many long hot summers, I can't do the heat anymore. the high humidity makes it almost twice as unbearable, and its only getting hotter. in five years it might be doable for some, but I think there will still be a noticeable difference.

Im also craving snow and mountains these days, but understand how costly winters can be. maybe something in the middle ... Appalachia?

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ruin wrote

If you’re near the coast the temp is much more bearable. Northern FL is definitely more comfortable than say Atlanta or Dallas.

Appalachia is great, but everyone wants to move nearer the ocean this time around. We’re also trying to make sure that if the kids decide that they want to go to school they can and that we aren’t in such in a remote area that it limits opportunities for them as they get older. Tough balance sometimes.

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ruin wrote

I’m always kicking around the sailboat dream... but my wife’s not cool with being on open water and with four kids and a couple dogs I’m having a tough time selling the idea.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Well, what if the central issue then is that "owning" land is not a good way for anarchy? That it was the mistake of Waco, of the utopian American socialists, etc?

The whole point of a mobile fleet, is to be able to move, with the idea that you can't be pinned down and forced to pay for rent or mortgage or utilities or whatever. You just take what you need from the area, make what you can, and you're good to gravy (is that how you say?).

So perhaps some people have means, are in solidarity, and offer land. Great. But, you can still have a mobile fleet without a base, it just has to squat. It can be done, even in the cities. The major problem is; gas, maintenance. The easiest way to avoid this, is to go EV, and either charge solar, have some kind of wind turbine, or easier yet just plug in to electricity plugs where you can take it for free (most caravan have this, and you just need a friend in a house and a 100m extension cable for each vehicle).

Up front costs are huge, which is why I haven't done this, but it's a much better outcome than saving so much money for a fixed location that can be compromised at any time because it's funded by illegal activity and easily traceable.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Eirther have a tent, or sleep in your car and crack the window open.

Sure, with a smaller vehicle, these are options

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