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ChaosBomb wrote

As a USAnarchist, I too love Classical Liberalism and rebranding Lockean concepts such as the "Right of revolution" to suit my tepid brand of Anarcho-Social Democracy.

We're fucking terrible, oh my god.

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Bezotcovschina wrote (edited )

Maybe they just describing Chomsky's position in a weird way and everything isn't that bad?

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ChaosBomb wrote

The fact that they're interpreting Chomsky's position in that way and haven't rejected him or that position is a problem for various reasons.

They're either twisting Chomsky's words and intentions around to suit a reformist, non-anarchist framework or they're interpreting everything correctly and legitimately believe that anarchism is compatible with hierarchy. The sentiment that they're spouting is similar to Locke's "once a government becomes tyrannical, it should be overthrown; but government isn't inherently tyrannical" idea.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

but, it's just a temporary hierarchy. You know, for good reasons! Don't be a child!!!

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ComradeTrump wrote

it is a transitional period that is necessary so in 10 thousand or more years all hierarchy would just wither away. it's very hegelian you see

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Thank you comrade, that was diabolically-- i, uhm, mean, it was dialectically edifying

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celebratedrecluse wrote

HOW WILL WE BUILD THE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAD!?!?!?!

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ziq OP wrote

with millions of skulls from the rotting corpses of the illegitimate reactionaries felled in the glorious non-coercive revolution we fought for our great legitimate emperor when he realized everyone except himself failed to meet the burden of proof needed for their special privileges

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ChaosBomb wrote

Can't wait for the Liberal-Syndicalist-Marxist-Leninist Coalition to form in 2030.

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black_fox wrote

i would suggest ignoring these people

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ziq OP wrote

you can't ignore a majority view, you're constantly accosted by it whenever you try to engage with anarchy in any anarchist space. if it's never discredited, it'll just embed itself even deeper like the 'anticiv is fascism' argument that's become so prevalent. and then anyone with a view counter to the dominant narrative gets chastened and excluded from the few spaces that purport to be set aside for them to interact with likeminds

i'm an anarchist because i constantly question everything that doesn't make sense to me, maybe you're ok with turning the other cheek or whatever, but that's not me. i prod and poke at every opportunity

not that i'm going to engage with this particular person beyond linking to their nonsense here

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ziq OP wrote

it's a potential teaching moment for anyone lurking on raddle that hasn't yet thought about these questions

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black_fox wrote

not that i'm going to engage with this particular person beyond linking to their nonsense here

fair enough. sounds like your experience has been different than mine as i’ve literally never come across this people in @ spaces in the US

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ziq OP wrote

Well they're all Americans so I figure you lot should take some responsibility for letting them fester.

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