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OdiousOutlaw wrote (edited )

There are at least 3 different kinds of Ancap/Us Libertarian (they're the same fucking thing; there is no real difference, let's be honest):

You've got your militia-loving types; these are the ones that have the guns and are the either the "come and take it" types or fond of conspiracy theories; don't try talking to them, you're already a communist (regardless of how true or false that is). They don't vote and consider politicians frauds (broken clocks and all that). They've probably called themselves a sovereign citizen at one point. Most likely to be found "running drills" with their gun-toting buddies and probably owns a bunker.

You've got the high class types: the logic pedants that read books (or at least claim to), that one person that thinks Max Stirner/Egoism is pro-capitalist, Ayn Rand fans, the business owner (of any size really), the one you're most likely to encounter on the internet, and the one most likely to say that slavery wasn't that bad because they were "paid" in food and shelter. Wastes of time, space, and flesh; really. If these ones ran a society, nihilists could fuck it up fairly easily.

Then you've got the "normies": they didn't read any books and they aren't too into conspiracy; if you introduce them to libertarian socialist concepts without saying the words that frighten them; you'll find that they're quite amenable to a few ideas. They're the most malleable: maybe they'll become a mutualist later on; maybe they'll actually warm up to socialism once they've read more on it; of course, they could also become one of the above types, progressive liberals, conservative liberals, or fascists. Really depends on who and what they're exposed to. And yes, their choice in definitions has everything to do with shallow first impressions and what they've heard others say, they don't actually read any political or economic theory.

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Are there any good writings or discussions that brainstorm effective ways to radicalize ancaps or at least make discussions with them less frustrating?

Not that I know of; I used to be one, though so I can give some advice on what not to do:

1: Do not mention Socialism/Communism At ALL. You'll instantly lose whatever credibility you may have had beforehand. Slip in some theory that doesn't overtly say it's Socialist or Communist; in fact, introducing them to mutualism is your safest bet.

2: They're "ideology" runs off of Rugged Individualism; and they're very stubborn about it, so don't try appealing to them with mutual aid, don't try appealing to them with worker's rights; if it requires compassion, don't use it. Appeal to them using their own self interest (no, don't introduce them to Egoism; they'll just become "Objectivists" without the moralizing). Don't criticize individualism in any way; no matter how tempting it may be; they'll just assume that you think that they're weak or incompetent, and they'll just dig their heels and insist that they can do anything and everything on my own.

3: Class/Identity politics: Don't. They legitimately do not give a fuck about either.

4: Criticize the state: they eat that shit up. They don't care about foreign policy, they hate welfare, and don't hate cops or the military (for the most part); so focus on how the state can, and will, fuck with their personal lives: increased surveillance, wasted tax dollars, and so on. Corporations are iffy, but I'd lean towards not talking about them; the venn diagram between Neoliberalism and US Libertarianism is almost a perfect circle. They still universally like and admire entrepreneurship and small businesses.

TLDR; throw a Mutualist-friendly book/pamphlet/manifesto at them after making nice and if they want to talk to you after they read it, go for it. If they don't read it, don't waste your time.

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