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roanoke9 wrote

The comments section has my head spinning. I'm gonna have to think about this for a bit. So many biases going at each other. For now: tourism bad and sex tourism just another level of bad.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

There are several things going on. Wikipedia says basically no one in Gambia speakis English. It's 0.5 percent of the population who speaks it. It's actually the official language of Gambia so all the burecrats speak it. So the people commenting in English are mostly an extremely well to do part of Gambia.

So it has a sampling bias of only listening to basically American multimillionares on politics. 2 sex tourism is happening and is bad. 3 the government is cracking down on sex workers criminally as they dirty the public image of Gambia.

So the idea that there are a bunch of rich people happy in the comments that the police are going to crack down on sex workers for their own good.

Which is a popular enough narrative for English speakers that the nuance of the conversation should make more sense.

P.s. though alternatively service workers in the tourism industry also know English so it could be them commenting too. I know basically jack shit. But I was adding the inference about speaking English because usually thats a big detail

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roanoke9 wrote

That . It just seemed to me like layers upon layers of abuse, from the priveleged white tourists, to the conditions in Gambia and the government increasing harm. And then the comments, like most any YT comments section, very sure of themselves and calling people evil. Because individual, innately evil people is always the go to explanation. The small amount of English speakers does help explain alot. Oh, yeah and some ageism and misogyny for good measure because of the - old women can't get a man in US, so they come here, while mostly ignoring that sex tourism is a male dominated phenomenon. My prior knowledge of the subject was mostly accounts of US men looking for places with lower age of consent countries to commit abuse with impunity. More impunity than when they do it in their own country anyway.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

Nah it actually isn't mysogny in this case. Sexpats are incredibly racist. So as you can imagine male sexpats don't wanna have sex with african women. While women sexpats do. So like for people in gambia its pretty likely that the problem is predominantly women. There prob some men but most are pretty racist so they don't choose africa.

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roanoke9 wrote

I was referring to the overall phenomenon of sex tourism in that point, not just Gambia. Despite racism, and maybe they do skip over africa, male saxpats sure do love thailand. And racism does not preclude using non-white people for whatever they can get away with. Ugh. How messed up is that hierarchy if Africa is considered the brothel for priveleged white women and Asia the brothel for priveleged white men? Next level dystopian nightmare stuff. Can't wait till jet fuel runs out, cause I doubt any of 'em will be riding slow boats to do shit like this.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

oh yeah. Men doing sex tourist shit is way more prevelant and somehow may more predatory and heinous. I absolutely agree. God, the comment about how sextourists treat 3rd world countries as brothels is so fucking true.

cause I doubt any of 'em will be riding slow boats to do shit like this.

oh prepare to hear nasty shit. There is a fairly prevelent practice of single men who work online or retire to just move to the phillipines or tailand. So they can have servants wait on them in the day and then they can hire sex workers regularly. And these fucks talk in forums on how to bargin and what prices you can if you haggle well in X city. So since they buy so much sex the city they live in is determined almost exclusively on how many sex workers there are and the market price.

So yeah, they will go on those slow ass boats bc these assholes will literally live there so the can save money being a sex creep.

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roanoke9 wrote

There was one comment that said if african men were doing the same as these white women, the government would probably kill them. And that's probably true. What I don't know us if the commenter thought that was good or bad. The cultural divide just made it hard to interpret.

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